American Article on USA vs. Canada

[thescottc]

@loyola

Even if she was warned, it's still a bit cheeky for the ref to make that call at that time in the game. It's akin to warning a pitcher about balking in the 4th inning, the calling a balk in the 9th to bring in the winning run.

If she wanted to make a point to McLeod then the proper time to call it would have been much earlier in the game. You don't let her get away with it for 79 minutes of the game and then suddenly make that call.

[loyola]

@loyola

Even if she was warned, it's still a bit cheeky for the ref to make that call at that time in the game. It's akin to warning a pitcher about balking in the 4th inning, the calling a balk in the 9th to bring in the winning run.

If she wanted to make a point to McLeod then the proper time to call it would have been much earlier in the game. You don't let her get away with it for 79 minutes of the game and then suddenly make that call.

I made that point in another thread. Earlier in the game would've been thee best moment to make this call. But what if at 3-2 Canada, McLeod decide to keep the ball in her hand for 15-20 seconds or even more? At some point you are forcing the ref to react, specially if a warning was given.

The same could be said about YC given for time wasting. Early in the game you never see a ref give it to a keeper who's taking his time on a goal kick. But late in a game, with a team leading 1-0, you'll see that card given to the leading team keeper.

[Lord Bob]

And even if this was such an egregious case of time wasting that it was literally the worst in ten years, what about Solo doing the same stuff?

(Because it wasn't that extraordinary, that's why.)

[Cheeta]

^^
Except time wasting, as with any other infraction is only what the ref allows it to become.

The ref has the power to negate time wasting because only the ref controls the clock. The ref totally, unquestionably, and arbitrarily chooses when the match ends. He/she ends the match when he/she sees fit. Tacking on or not tacking on time as they see fit for the circumstances.

Players (keepers and outfield players) can time waste all they want, the ref already has the tool necessary to negate that tactic without being grotesquely disproportionate.

If Pederson had just tacked on 10 seconds for McLeod's alleged time wasting this stain wouldn't be hanging over the contest. But she didn't, she charted a different course, and here we are.

[thescottc]

I made that point in another thread. Earlier in the game would've been thee best moment to make this call. But what if at 3-2 Canada, McLeod decide to keep the ball in her hand for 15-20 seconds or even more? At some point you are forcing the ref to react, specially if a warning was given.

The same could be said about YC given for time wasting. Early in the game you never see a ref give it to a keeper who's taking his time on a goal kick. But late in a game, with a team leading 1-0, you'll see that card given to the leading team keeper.

Except the consequences of a yellow card are much different than an indirect free kick in the box. The ref plainly knew she was changing the course of the game with that call (and the subsequent hand ball).

[Saviola7]

Well what bugs me is that both the free kick and the penalty are half-calls at best. A good way to ref (that is, to ensure you don't dictate the flow of the match too much) is to make every other half-call rather than choose two half-calls in a row. The ref made herself too much of a factor.

[Redcoatsforever]

Aside from a PM gambling scammer this is the first person I have ever banned.

I actually feel bad about it...

Response, which is pretty LOL.

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what a joke, I go online to see why everyone is crying about regarding the game and try to get input and get banned. wow. what i expect on a russian website, but not a canadian site. I would think that it would be welcomed....I am not used to socialism apparently. Disagree or try to investigate and get shut down, congrats. Stalin would be proud.

Banning people on an internet forum is socialism? If so, I would love to be a socialist. Least complicated political philosophy to date: "Ban Trolls".

[kj52]

would love an answer......crickets....Bueller ? Bueller?

Obviously some american kid on summer vacation without any friends and nothing to do on his summer vacation.

[loyola]

Except the consequences of a yellow card are much different than an indirect free kick in the box. The ref plainly knew she was changing the course of the game with that call (and the subsequent hand ball).

You are missing the point. I was just giving an example of a play that it usually called late in a game because of the context. Time wasting is rarely called early on.

Anyways, I just think that if Erin was indeed warned by the ref, then she played with fire after that.

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"It's customary for the referee to give a warning when she thinks the goalkeeper is taking too much time. Wambach said she saw Pedersen give McLeod a warning. McLeod said she was told by a linesman at the start of the second half not to slow down play, but didn't consider that a proper warning."

"It was obviously clear that Canada was trying to bide their time," Wambach said. "They're up a goal, and they're taking as much time as they need. Throughout the game, I was speaking with the ref. She warned Erin throughout the game that she was taking too long. Erin responded with an 'I understand.'"

Take it with a grain of salt coming from Wambach, but if this is true then McLeod was definitely playing with fire. Obviously it's a call that is pretty much never made, but if the ref is being anal about things then you should probably not push the envelope too much.