Reply With QuoteHas anyone mentioned the shirt pulling on the first US equaliser by the American? definitely effected the defenders ability to clear the ball
Bottom line there is suspect reasons to think this game may have been bought. I will outline the reasons why, none of these are 100% concrete but I think it warrants some investigation.
For one match fixing happens a lot, a womens ref is obviously probably more at risk of being bought because its probably not scrutinized as heavily as the mens game and because I'm sure she has a day job and makes minimum amounts from reffing.
-there were a ton of calls that were in clear view of the ref that went the wrong way, not one but many.
-if you are going to fix a womens game betting patterns would tip it off, but this game should have had more action which would hide match fixing for profit easier.
-if you are picking a game you have a big sample size of USA vs Canada in the last few years and the results say USA will win that game a very big % of the time, so bet is safer matter of fact in soccer there are probably no other 2 teams that have played each other more and one side being very dominant
-buying the ref is merely insurance that you probably won't need very often, this time it was needed.
If there was suspect betting activity authorities somewhere should be able to find it if they can get cooperation by sportsbooks, as more than normal action on one side + suspect reffing or player patterns paints a pretty clear picture.
Now my arguments could also be used for fifa or the US federation but those would be much more difficult to prove and less likely to be investigated.
Has anyone mentioned the shirt pulling on the first US equaliser by the American? definitely effected the defenders ability to clear the ball
If we're looking at incentives for match fixing it's interesting that the refereeing was definitely more accurate in extra time, when the result (for gambling purposes) was already a draw.
Not every day is Christmas.
Considering what happened to REB in the U-23's this is a pretty funny response to today's refereeing. https://twitter.com/Randoll17/status/232617640953270273
very proud of the team. Refing was horible both ways , just more horrible against Canada. if the ref was enforcing the 6 second rule than it should have been enforced both ways. that was clearly ball to hand and not hand on ball. I am going to look at the American sites to see what they say about the game. I don't hold any hostility to the American Players. They are a very good team. We played for the most part better, the first goal against was some poor defending. I think Sinclair may have screend the full back (name escapes me) and the American forward did a very good job of denying teritory.
So Ladies hold your head high you won the game in the hearts and minds of a nation. ( well at least mine, my wife and my 12 year lod son and my 10 year old daugter.
ps i think my spell check is off. and too lazy to check the old fashion way.
ah man, what a heart breaker.
Credit where it's due though, I thought the team learned from some poor earlier results and started playing better as the Olympics went on.
If your going to call that, you would have to call the Canadian girl who earlier in the game pulled the U.S. girls jersey so high, herOriginally Posted by Heathen
bra was showing.
I am absolutely horrified at what I just witnessed. I just saw a Canadian women's team, and Christine Sinclair in particular, do what everyone said they needed to do to beat the americans; play the game of their lives. And so we did, only to have it taken away by a corrupt/biased and/or incompetent person in a manner of seconds. To be able to do the unbelievable and still have it taken away from you by the person who is supposed to represent fair play and equality is the cruelest of all outcomes for our girls.
Congratulations fifa, just like concacrap in the men’s gold cup, you ensured the final that you wanted. I cannot even begin to imagine the complacency in the Olympics and fifa and world football in general that allows what we just witnessed to not be questioned officially. I hate conspiracies normally, but in our game as it is currently administered, this one is easy to believe. To take away the chance from our girls just because they are unfashionable compared to the usa women (plus whatever other reasons motivated this travesty) is criminal. My heart goes out to our players, it truly does.
On that note, I think we can only applaud the girls and the staff for this performance tonight. You are all class acts and a credit to what real fans, players and administrators at all levels in Canada are trying to do for our sport; compete legitimately on the world stage.
Personally, I take many consolations from this game. First, we did not lose it by normal means, nor were we destroyed by the usa. Second, this game not only speaks volumes for how far the girls have come compared to the rest of the world and they done so legitimately. Truly they did it without anything but hard work on and off the field. This is more than can be said about the americans. Third, this really was a break out game for the team and the women’s game in this country despite the "official" result on paper. I have a feeling that the best is still to come for the team. We were defeated not by a good USA team, but by one that had help under the table (please disagree if you like). Forth, and most of all, because of our hard work to get results, the Canadian Women's National Team is building immense credibility, respect, reputation and most of all momentum on and off the pitch, at home and abroad. With the worlds eyes and most of all, Canada's, on this horrid outcome, the footballing world will not be able to get away with doing this to us for too much longer. The future players will remember this night and use it as motivation to push Canada even further up the ladder. In some ways, perhaps we should thank the americans and those behind corrupt results like this, because it will help grow a culture and passion for the game at home, stronger and more gifted players and most of all, a desire to win.
So to our valiant ladies I say go and keep doing what you are doing on and off the field. Keep growing in strength and you will be just fine. Inspiring another dozen or so generations of young players to become future national team stars will make Canada even stronger.
Let the american ladies and that great pretender sydney la roux play for their gold medal now, for if we keep up like this, soon the usa might not even be the best in concacaf, let alone the world. On that day maybe we can forgive ms. christina pederson of norway...
^+1 -heartily agree. This was a great performance by the WNT.
As an aside, I am guessing the odds that Carol Anne Chenard (CAN) and her officiating crew get the GM game are about the distance to Mars to one. Pity, I think that crew is one of the best, if not the best in the tournament. I am sure some fine ref from AFC or (shock horror) UEFA (again) will get it.
I think those looking for a gambling/mafia angle to the fix are barking up the wrong tree. There is no particular reason for a gambling syndicate to fix this game instead of many others and the difference in money from media, tv, ticket sales, etc. to be made from a US-Japan final compared to Canada-Japan by far dwarfs what a betting syndicate could get away with on this game. This one is solely on one or more of the following mafia organizations: FIFA, IOC, USSF. Plus a betting syndicate always has to balance the chances of getting caught to the possible rewards. For the other organizations it is pretty hard to get caught when they are also the authority in charge of policing.
That being said I do not want to focus entirely on the negative. This team played better than we have seen in years and is really on the right track with this coach (and it also shows how poor the previous two coaches were). Lets hope that we continue to improve like this.
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