MLS teams in the U.S. are passing over Canadian players due to international status
Can't say I have not seen this coming since they announced the rules, but here is the proof now. Thanks MLS for taking the profit money from the Canadian teams while using it to prop US teams that should not even be in the league (Columbus) while acting like a barrier to Canadian player development.
http://www.torontosun.com/2012/07/26...ut-in-the-cold
Quote:
"“There are a couple of (U.S. MLS) coaches that have put out some feelers about potentially having some Canadian national team payers but they’re hesitant ... because the Canadians count as foreigners,” Canadian head coach Stephen Hart told the Sun.
“There are a few players they have liked and if they didn’t count as foreigners I have no doubt they’d be in the league.”
At the start of the 2012 season, clubs based in Canada (Toronto FC, Vancouver Whitecaps, Montreal Impact) were allotted eight roster spots for international players. Although the league stipulates that Canadian clubs must have a minimum of three rostered Canadians, the rest of their squads can be comprised of as many Americans or Canadians as they like.
The rules are different for U.S.-based MLS sides.
For the 16 American clubs, Canadians are considered international players, which means their inclusion takes away one of the eight allotted international slots a team is granted — a rule the CSA said has caused a handful of managers to pass over Canadian talent in order to avoid losing a coveted international spot.
“What concerns me is ... on the senior side you potentially have players that could be playing in a decent league and could be playing consistently,” Hart said. “But because of the foreign rule they end up playing in countries where the league is unstable.”
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This is a "Do you know what grinds my gears?" moment
"The players the CSA identified to the Sun as being of interest to an assortment of MLS franchises aren’t exactly high-priced players — one of which played a significant role in Canada’s June qualifiers in Cuba and against Honduras."
Ricketts, Nakajima, Klukowski, perhaps?
^Those could be the guys, but Ledgerwood might also be one of them. I'm glad TFC gave Harden a shot.
Just for comparison sake, those guys are much better than harden who can fill a roster spot. That is the difference between a domestic and international roster spot in the MLS. A guy like this playing while Ricketts doesn't.
there are two sides to that coin. On one sides, yes, the rules do end up being unfair (you could use the word discriminatory) to Canadians, absolutely. if an American can be treated as domestic player in Canada, then so should the Cnd on a US based club.
But on the flip side is: US laws are not going change and we did all this it to ourselves when the Cnd clubs were allowed to lower the minimum amount of required cnds on the roster to just three at the behest of the Whitecaps. And secondly, its tough to float out there the notion that Cnds are denied opportunity solely because they would have to take up and international spot (on US based club) when in fact there are great deal of Jamaicans, Hondurans and other players occupying those international spots in MLS from Concacaf nations. Let not forget that there is strict cap in the league and what you can afford to pay for an international is not necessarily huge. Most international slotted players are not thierry henry types. Bottom line, this situation should serve as motivation in WCQ for those three players to really show what they can do.
still, this situation needs to be fixed. the only people who can fix this one is the CSA.
Last edited by Free kick; 07-27-2012 at 08:32 AM.
Kluka didn't play a significant role in those matches.Originally Posted by nolando
Not "exactly high-priced players" indicates to me guys like Ledgerwood as TFCfan4life pointed out, and maybe Ricketts who has been looking for a club also. Could also be guys like Peters, and without knowing more details about the situations could mean young guys like Nana and Gyorio (though he supposedly turned down a deal with SKC).
"We are back bitches" - Adolf Hitler.
Can someone explain why these US Immigration laws play a role here but don't in other sports? Obviously, there is a reason, but I can't find it.
None of the other sports have domestic roster restrictions. Without knowing the law in any detail, the gist is that if you restrict the number of foreign players you can't have an exemption for Canadians without getting permission from Congress. Garber has said that such an exemption is possible, but isn't warranted because there's currently not enough demand for Canadian players. When the 3 Canadian clubs routinely playing US journeymen over Canadians, it's hard to argue with him. Even with our clubs, there are still more Colombians than Canadians in MLS and they play a much more influential role.
since 1974
I think the reason that this does not come up in other leagues in the U.S. besides MLS is because there is no quota in other leagues such as the NFL, NHL, MLB, or NBA. These sports do not protect any spots for American workers while MLS does. If you do protect some jobs specifically for American workers I think it makes it a bit more complicated.
Jason
This is a misconception actually Free Kick. I've seen others like BBTB constantly mention it as well. The thing about US laws being a barrior is not true. Don Garber himself has stated before that they would review the rules when there comes a point when a high amount of Canadians are entering the league.
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