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    Quote Originally Posted by Redcoatsforever View Post
    I sincerely hope this wasn't some joke and Jono was like "let's see how the fans react" and we just completely put him off playing for us...goddammit, the De Guzman's have me all-shook-up here...
    If he's getting offended by message board posters Lord help him when the first piss bag goes flying in Panama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theaub View Post
    If he's getting offended by message board posters Lord help him when the first piss bag goes flying in Panama.
    While someone connected may read this board, there is no chance any decision is related to how fans react on a message board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theaub View Post
    if he's getting offended by message board posters lord help him when the first piss bag goes flying in panama.
    lol. Hahahaha

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    This has got to be the most entertaining thread that is active on this board. Weve come full circle back to the piss baggers once again.

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    There is no doubt that Jono is looking at international play with the exact same viewpoint as he does with his club play. His view is what is best for him and his career? There is no emotion or sentimentality about about it. He is not like some of our players, who were willing to risk losing their starting roles with their club in order to play for Canada. Jono won't sacrifice anything unless there is something in it for him. If it suits his purpose to come back to Canada at a future date, I have no doubt that he will. But everything will be done on his terms and timeline.

    One more thought about this: if you have been around here long enough, you will remember that Radzinski's career has some parallels compared to Jono except that Radz committed to Canada very early on. Radz only answered the call when it suited him for several years. I remember he wasn't too available during our last time in the hex in 1997. They really could've used him but he came up with various excuses to not show as his club career was flourishing. I believe he even expressed regret that he committed to Canada when he could've played for Poland. However, as he matured, he really stepped up and now Canada fans have mostly forgotten this. Could we see this with Jono? Possibly but there is no point in spending too much time worrying about it.

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    ^ Radzinski showed up for the first half of the Hex and was pissed that he was being used mostly as a right midfielder in the 4-4-2 formation (Bunbury and Pesch were the forwards) but continued to play for Canada. After the Jamaica game in Sept. '97 Radz finally listened to his club coach who had been telling him that he was wasting his time with Canada and stopped answering the call.

    Holger approached him about coming back into the fold in 2000 and Radz seemed receptive, but ended up being a tease for the next 3-4 years until he left Everton and joined Fulham. I have no first hand knowledge, but pretty sure the problem was with the Everton brass not wanting him to play internationally as he instantly joined us after leaving there.
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    Maybe Julian's the one being a misleading jerk, and Jonathan was actually sincere this whole time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by madmonte View Post
    Maybe Julian's the one being a misleading jerk, and Jonathan was actually sincere this whole time?
    Maybe they've actually been the same person this whole time? Like in Fight Club.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madmonte View Post
    Maybe Julian's the one being a misleading jerk, and Jonathan was actually sincere this whole time?
    Not a chance. Julian has been questioned on this for the past 7+ years, he didn't just wake up one day and go "hey, I'm going to get the Canadian fans all excited for no reason!".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Califax View Post
    Maybe they've actually been the same person this whole time? Like in Fight Club.
    Whoa. Whaaaaattt? Consider my mind BLOWN, dude!

    Quote Originally Posted by Keegan View Post
    Not a chance. Julian has been questioned on this for the past 7+ years, he didn't just wake up one day and go "hey, I'm going to get the Canadian fans all excited for no reason!".
    (laughs) Half my posts are tongue in cheek, sorry, sometimes a joking tone of voice is hard to convey on here.

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