For better or worse, the rules on this forum are seldom followed or enforced (note I'm breaking two of them right now). As such, we're left with street justice. In the case of BBTB, there's the outside possibility that he doesn't quite understand the douchebaggery that is conveyed in his posts. I noticed recently that a short, and curt reply seems to shut him up. That's my advice. Don't put up with his crap.
since 1974
Clearly he has no clue. In a way it is kind of flattering that he thinks that I should have an encyclopedic memory of every player who played for the national team for the last 30 years.Originally Posted by youllneverwalkalone
I don't think he needs banning, yet, but his apparent inability or unwillingness to respect boundaries is pretty bloody aggravating.
And this from a guy who has done his share of aggravating.
"The Sponsons really 'tasted the soup' today losing 3 - 0 to the resurgent Towrads."
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Ted, Lake Side Buoys (Victoria Highlanders Supporters)
Great, now the next time i tell his Scottish ass to get the **** off the Canadian supporters board he'll actually have ammunition (linking this thread) when he fakes indignation and says he won't be intimated into leaving....
The sad reality is this board is a free for all with douchebags, club rivalries and petty regionalism testing your sanity from time to time. The only one who has your back is you, yourself and irene. It's one of the reasons i took so long to go from lurking (1999) to registering (2006).
"We are back bitches" - Adolf Hitler.
Damnit, now he's trying to change what he's been saying:
Earlier he was going on about how USL Pro could be considered Canadian d-2 and was pretty much already USSF d-2(?) and this somehow made it appropriate to talk USL PRO in a regional canadian d-3 thread??? Now's he's trying to pretend he's just been talking down the national D-2 no one is talking about, sure he has and it's STILL off topic (him remembering his old off topic post is worth ANOTHER POST!?). I don't want to sift through ten progressively dumber posts as he tries to protect his ego.
He's still talking about the wrong topic, he's still being dishonest, except that now he's incrementally changing his opinions (just leaving the same dickish bias') so that in a few pages he can pretend he didn't make a fool of himself. EGO SAVING EXERCISES ARE OFF TOPIC, I DO NOT WANT TO WATCH BBTB squirm in the middle of our conversation. If he's so concerned about his ego, he should think before he speaks, not keep talking until no one else can ffs.
How do you tell someone to 'think before they speak' when they also tell you to google THEIR points? Why should I bother to reference or make sense with my points if it's apparantly perfectly acceptable to put the burden of proof on the listener
What just kills me is he's always claiming we shouldn't be talking about the subject, thats NOT BEING ON TOPIC, it's referring to the topic EXTERNALLY. And then if someone doesn't publish something on time, he will spend hours making huge fantasy conclusions in the middle of news threads. If every thread has a 25 post nonsense tax, maybe we should block the taxman. BTW, when was the last time bbtb had a useful post that wasn't just based off bias, spite or trying to save face? When's the last time anyone thought 'good contribution' blizzard?
Now I'm just bitching but does anyone remember how a couple years ago we pointed out he had no ideas, so after a few month of that, what did he do? He stole small parts from everyone else's regional d-3 idea and made a terribly foolish version where the amateur teams (PDL) are higher then Semi Pro, and follow the USSF on everything (pretty much he recommended what was already going to happen if we did nothing). And now, whenever someone claims to have a d-3 idea, he says it's the same as his idea??? He spends hours wasting our time making stupid arguements against our points and then will immidiately take credit for what he fought excessively against the moment it seems likely? At the end of the day, his words look meaningless but his grudges are the only consistant factor. This is a canadian soccer forum, not a random grudges forum
Last edited by Juby; 04-25-2012 at 12:56 PM.
Repeating a post, this is the entirety of blizzards 20% 'contribution' to a thread trying to brainstorm the varying level and regions we could use at d-3. It's mostly him talking **** about D-2 (why?) or pretending it will all make sense if he can prove who Jim Easton is, instead of answer the question of WHAT HE SAID.
maybe I'll just make it super obvious:
As you can see here, he starts off confused correcting us from talking about d-2.
Still clearly confused, because the league we are describing (d-3 regional) is the one being recommended. And here is where he digs he's heels in on Jim Easton even though it's completely irrelevant.
If we give bbtb the benefit of the doubt (we all know were he's confused) then we have to assume he's still off topic bitching about a d-2.
Here he confirms he still isn't aware (or is being a huge troll) that we are discussing regional d-3, not national d-2. He also apparantly finally proves his point about who Jim Easton is, but how does proving who jim easton is make him correct for posting 4 times about off topic about d-2? Then he links a prominent board member to his post to try and pretend he not off topic.
This is rather bizarrre, he's responding to someone who briefly responded to me, he's supposed to be ignoring me so it made no sense for him to respond. But he posts an even more off topic response:
This is clearly right off topic (NASL d2) and he puts a comment in the middle to try and link Peter Montopoli to things David Downs said. On top of that, Why would the NASL commish be talking about a Canadian d-3? Why would that NON-MENTION mean anything? Were not allowed to be on topic but he will draw conculsions based on what DAVID DOWNS DIDN'T SAY!
And then he tries to tell everyone else that their confused, not him:
Here he's trying to confuse the issue:
Notice how he compares the semi pro CSL to amateur leagues and then advocates the amateur PDL and the not yet existing L1O to get out of these amateur traps? How is recommending players play in leagues with lower budgets and less pay an improvement? Why couldn't you just recommend the CSL as it's obviously doing the function you want? Why do you have to things this dumb, like recommend an amateur team over a semi pro team, to get to low level pro!? Also, notice how their is apparently no possible options between million dollar expenditure's and the current 150 000 - 200 000$ CSL expenditure. He won't acknowledge the 800 000$ in range between the present and final ideal product? It's just a stupid point that over simplifies our points to look as dumb as his.
Still off topic, Ted was talking regional d3, which the podcast actually said recieved 'widespread support'. So what is it, are you lieing or do you not like to read or are you aware your a troll?
When you put it all together like this it gets a little embarressing for him.
Still trying to pretend his arguement is predicated on who Jim Easton is.
Except he's been argueing against d2, and nonsense is not a 'negative response', just because you can put two words together doesn't mean you should say them, of course I'm trying to talk to someone who thinks others are responsible for fact checking your claims.
You mean the one that encourages this conversation? And here's a 8 month old report where he proves who Jim Easton is...
More of him thinking that we'll accept all his conclusions without thinking if he can prove who Jim Easton is, even though he still hasn't shown us what JIm Easton said, let alone if he agrees with bbtb.
more unsourced comments (can you prove what you've claimed the CSA was thinking?) and general dishonesty (I wonder why he's not actually linking teh podcast this time!?) and then he vaguely mentions the rethink study and the moratorium to pretend he's making a point (he's not, he's just saying keywords). Then he goes on to actually answer teh question but as backwards as possible. This discussion started because of the regional U-23 recommendation, but he somehow distorts it into not only acting like were' making a big deal out of no information (that's blizzards forte) despite his podcast saying the opposite, he goes back into shooting down a national d-2 and recommending the NASL, 8 pages in and he's still trying to turn this into NASL Expansion into Canada instead of just going to that thread.
14 posts out of 72, all of them off topic, dishonest or pointless. Most of them making non points and just discourging the topic without engaging the. 14 posts because he's confused? 14 posts and he still failed to make an actual on topic contribution. All he did was argue against something off topic, defend the veracity of point that never mattered (we want to know what jim easton said, not his ****ing club history) and insult everyone for talking part in conversation he wasn't contributing to. FFS is it really appropiate for 20% of a thread to be one persn repeating trollish arguements? 20% for one man's waste (and add to that the extra 10-15% of me pointlessly bitching at him).
20% nonsense (repeated nonsense no less) from someone not even interested in the discussion is ridiculous.
Last edited by Juby; 04-25-2012 at 02:09 PM.
Yikes you're burning a lot of calories on this. If he's a troll, you've given him the greatest victory in all troll kind. He has taken screen shots of this thread and posted them on troll message boards where other trolls high five him and call him king.
Kyle Bekker: already like Xavi, but better.
heh, it never really occured to me that a grown man would enjoy upsetting people for fun, I really hope no adult here is that pathetic (have you ever had someone try and get out of poor behaviour by saying their just trying to bother you? You can reverse coolio them by saying 'you don't have anything better to do?/What are we, 8 *laugh*/WTF talks like that *laugh*). Basically, I no longer think it's better to appear cool and ignore it, I'd rather have a hissy fit, embaress myself and have it dealt with. At this point I'd gladly take a banning if it were to get rid of him too (then at least I could READ the conversation).
awww, you don't even know how sick I even am of my own ****, and then I hear that same old ****... *shakes head*
I feel like the only solution would be for us to start any topic with a list of debates that have already been argued in recent topics that we are now moving past. Otherwise it's apparently appropriate for bbtb to trollishly go back into old debates so he can feign opposition daily. Don't you think that when were considering a list of ground rules in the first post to keep a thread on topic, that maybe the troll is out of control? Why should we tolerate the guy who gets up in the middle of the night (to get the most hours without being interrupted by, the FACTS) to make an inflammatory post that he know's isn't accurate, just to keep a subject off topic?
[B]Shouldn't he start a topic called 'a workable d4' or 'why domestic leagues won't work' or 'why we should skip d3 to get to d2' etc.? The reason he doesn't is because almost no one talks to him when he starts threads, and those that do, usually correct whatever lies he's trying to mask by talking arrogantly. This is why he takes his **** off topic into our thread. He failed to gain any merit based on his ideas alone (no one reads his blog), so all he can do is go off topic and try to smear ours.
Last edited by Juby; 04-28-2012 at 07:58 PM.
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