Project of reporting soccer matches for Canadian soccer teams for the new season!
Hello to all,
We need guys (soccer fans, students, freelance reporters) who prefer watching soccer matches by being inside the stadium and would like to get paid by describing the soccer match using a specific form of communication structure.
Easy + Profitable part time job / match!
We are seeking for guys located in the following cities:
Toronto
Brampton
Brantford
London
Ottawa
St.Catherines
Windsor
Montreal
If anyone is interested to participate please send us private message (pm) for more information, details and terms.
Sport-view team
P.S. Everyone coming from any background but likes watching soccer matches is accepted!
Only take this offer if you want to learn more about how sports betting rackets are infiltrating deeper into Canadian soccer. Information goes back live to betting rooms in China; billions of dollar industry that is behind significant match fixing.
Might be worth paying attention to see if anyone is doing this kind of 'match reporting' at CSA and below level games... and kindly ask them to leave.
Last edited by elmateo; 12-18-2011 at 05:36 PM.
Originally Posted by elmateo
Thats what I though when I declined the offer. Who wants to stand at a game talking into a phone? Even if they are paying you to do so.
It does not has to do with match fixing, and also information are not transferred specifically into Chinese betting rooms. They might be transferred everywhere all over the world. Its intention serves statistical purposes.
It is unfair to create scandal for a project that gives money to soccer fans needing from them simply to watch a 90mins match. Also money are paid normally, and no one loses his money.
Why would anyone be interested in paying for live information about a match in St Catherine's or Windsor if not for betting? And, if not the Chinese, who is betting significant enough amounts of money to LOOK for matches at this level of play?
Sure clubs are interested in match scouting, so they might also tap into this type of information, but if that is a cover for this activity then sorry.
The links between the betting and match fixing are well documented in Declan Hill's book "The Fix". Interest has extended into fixing matches at major youth tournaments throughout Europe for betting purposes; you can encounter persons providing live "match stats" for betting into their cell phones at these tournaments. Lower tier leagues are increasingly popular targets for betting because for the moment they are thought to be less likely to be fixed, but as accessibility of these matches to betting increases so will the likelihood that there will be efforts to fix them.
Again, this kind of thing has the potential of destroying football around the world and should not be approached nor quietly condoned by anyone who cares about the sport. Encroachment into Canadian soccer could be damaging to longterm development of a stable development path of players, for this reason I think this 'advertisement' should be strongly unwelcome on the Voyageurs forum and fellow Voyageurs should be vigilant of anyone providing live match stats into their cell phone.
I don't really care about this debate too hard but I do notice a problem in this statement: Are you against Gambling or Match Fixing? I realize the two will often walk hand in hand, but theirs plenty of gambling that doesn't involve match fixing, tieing gambling and match fixing together as the same thing is not accurate. Are you suggesting that we eliminate gambling in order to eliminate match fixing? It might actually work but it's an unrealistic amount of over kill.
Just to clarify, I'm well aware theirs a million examples of betting working with match fixing, you could even be right about this example, my point is that still doesn't make them one and the same, you can't recalibrate your focus on gambling in general or else your gonna see match fixing every time someone makes a bet. And if this is an example potential match fixing, do some research and get some proof instead trying to connect it to a specific nationality, and if you can't prove it, even if your right, you should wait for a bit of proof before opening your mouth (because it's not okay to incorrectly label people because of a lack of specific information (unless it's like 'tight lipped'), technically YOU should have pursued and investigated this personally instead of just assuming and insulting, you kinda blew your cover as far as being 'on to them' goes)
Last edited by Juby; 12-20-2011 at 05:18 PM.
Clearly I am talking about international betting on levels of Canadian soccer that previously has not been exposed to betting; why? I referenced Declan Hill's book which is a well researched and experienced reality of international connections between betting and match fixing.
I realize match betting is a large industry in North America and Europe and has its own cultural relationship to sports; some parts of the industry are also involved in the darker side (match fixing being one part) and there have been efforts in Europe, in particular, that have not gone to the extreme eliminating betting.
Asian markets, however, dwarf all betting done in North America and Europe combined. And have well established links into organized crime (in part because betting outside of a few locations is illegal and highly prohibited in China); FIFA is very concerned about the spread of betting into lower-tiers of soccer. CSN reported a while back that Canadian clubs were named in a Eastern European match fixing trial: http://www.canadiansoccernews.com/co...chfixing-trial .
I would say this: I would prefer to keep international betting as far away as possible from CSA sanctioned matches; particularly as the industry expands around the world looking for (perceived to be) 'untouched' matches/leagues. Probably too late, but that does not mean raising an alarm about it is 'going too far'...
I don't know if that's possible, people will bet on anything, anywhere.
And like I said before, obviously betting is involved in fixed matches, but that does not mean all betting is linked to match fixing (it's obviously way more broad) so I'm saying you should avoid jumping the gun on big allegations until you get all your ducks in line (look into this a bit). I understand Declan Hill's book says certain things but does it ever mention this sport-view? Does it categorically prove that all statistics bought for betting info is actually meant for match fixing? Or do the match fixing guys use the same avenue as legitimate betting? (personally I'm not a gambler but from an international perspective (lots of conflicting laws) 'betting' doesn't automatically raise flags and can also be legitimate, no?). If your suspicious I think you should follow through, that said, this little convo doesn't help.
edit: and 'going too far'? I was saying to get the specific proof if your gonna go after these specific guys, not telling you to hide anything or to not open an appropriate thread to talk about match fixing in general. Making a hash accusation (even if it turns out to be correct) is by no means the only way to 'raise alarm'. BTW, in all fairness this probably is inappropriate for solicitation? or at least probably in the wrong sub forum. And one final add on: 'links into organized crime' bit, think about it, that is the exact same as implying you shouldn't get into legitimate canadian rifle sales (maybe you shouldn't anyway haha) because there are 'well established links into organized crime', it doesn't mean legitimate business people should go down with the illegitimate if their not actually connected.
Last edited by Juby; 12-20-2011 at 08:09 PM.
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