Reply With QuoteI'm sorry, but as a TFC fan the chance to go into Montreal and potentially win a trophy and hoist it on their very own field (like in 2009) is just about the most awesome thing in the world.Originally Posted by Tuscan
I always thought that we should copy an FA Cup or US Open Cup format. In 2012, it looks like the US Open Cup will use the last years standings of the PDL to qualify those teams. The interesting thing is basically 2 teams per division qualified. Thunder Bay Chill, Victoria Highlanders and Vancouver Whitecaps Residencey all finished higher than US teams that will play down for a chance at the CCL spot. Even adding a "play in" round of 4 spots (8 teams) it would give a chance to CSL teams and the 9 Canadian PDL teams or even the Challenge Trophy winner.
Dear CSA, Time to expand the V-Cup. Thanks.
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I'm sorry, but as a TFC fan the chance to go into Montreal and potentially win a trophy and hoist it on their very own field (like in 2009) is just about the most awesome thing in the world.
That would be impossible seeing as Toronto is the #1 seed in the 2012 V-Cup, only the first leg game would be played in Montreal
Based on the players Montreal have picked up so far, good luck...
There would be logistical challenges with including PDL clubs.
First, PDL clubs start playing in May. The Vees Cup would have to start a bit later, and the tournament itself would (probably) run longer, meaning that a champion wouldn't be declared until at least a month later than under the current format. CONCACAF wants a bit of gap between when a champion is selected, and when the CONCACAF Champions League begins. If the gap isn't long enough, CONCACAF might force the Canadian champion to enter the following CONCACAF Champions League. So if a champion is crowned in July 2012, that club might not enter the Champions League until August 2013.
Additionally, there is also the issue of what would happen if a PDL club were to win the Vees Cup. Seeing as PDL clubs only operate in the summer, they wouldn't be able to contest the CONCACAF Champions League.
Personally, I'm very much in favour of adding PDL clubs; but to make it work, it might require getting MLS and the USL to allow Canadian clubs to have a bit of a break from league play in May/June in order to get the competition sorted out early.
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A couple of years ago I suggested that PDL/CSL/PCSL/VMSL clubs play qualifying tournaments for the next year's Voyageurs Cup: play in 2012 to qualify for 2013.
The problem with a potential PDL team winning the Voyageurs Cup is still a real one, of course, but it's one that the US Open Cup has managed to deal with (I think by assuming that it could never really happen).
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I think that makes perfect sense and that logistically, it is the only reallistic possibility.
The game dates were part of the MLS leak of the Toronto FC schedule. The games are Wednesdays from May 9th through May 30th. Presumably then the schedule would be:
May 9
Edmonton vs Toronto
Montreal vs Vancouver
May 16
Toronto vs Edmonton
Vancouver vs Montreal
May 25
Lowest remaining seed vs highest remaining seed
May 31
Highest remaining seed vs lowest remaining seed.
Toronto has already sold the May 31st game to season ticket holders.
Given that the Whitecaps are playing in Portland on May 26, if the final round first leg is really on May 25 then that is pretty scandalous.
Not every day is Christmas.
Below is a truncated version of the article (took out the NASL and stadium stuff) refering to the Edmonton/ Vancouver match up for the Canadian Championship.
"FC Edmonton will get its chance for revenge when the NASL season opens April 7...
The Eddies will open at home on April 22 against the league champion NSC Minnesota Stars...
With the tournament that had been known as the Nutrilite Canadian Championship (new name expected for 2012) needing to be pushed back to accommodate a possible Toronto FC run into the CONCACAF Champions League, it’s a safe bet that, unlike last season, FCE’s NASL home opener will happen before its CC match. FC Edmonton will face the Vancouver Whitecaps in the opening round, and Edmonton’s home leg will take place at Commonwealth Stadium, because the turf there can be made free of the Canadian football lines. Tournament regulations don’t allow Canadian championship games to be played on fields that have clashing lines and markings with other sports.
The Eddies forum questioned this match up with the following response came frome Steve,
"The rankings are NOT determined by the previous year's NCC, save for the winner. It's the previous season's performances. FCE finished higher than the Impact in the NASL and is the No. 3 seed. Montreal's move to MLS is not factored in. So Montreal plays Toronto (1 vs. 4) and Edm vs. Van. (2 vs. 3)."
I looked to confirm this on the CSA website and got this....http://www.canadasoccer.com/championship/
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