Supporting CSA Teams and Events is Like an Abusive Relationship

[JamboAl]

"If anyone is being partisan, it is you for demanding special treatment because things didn't work out in Vancouver's favour."

That's psychological projection on your part. I have no idea what would have happened in the last 30 minutes which weren't played. And I still think that they should have been. And I'd say the same no matter what they score line was. Standing there for 30 minutes is the issue.

Sorry, after all you've said, I still don't know what you would have wanted the CSA to do last night.

And for once, I'll also defend the referee-even if they didn't have the 30 min delay, the game would not have been completed. It was crazy out there.

[seathanaich]

No, Dave Gantar did that.

Oh, so there was nobody from the CSA at the most important game they will supervise this year, and those non-existent CSA officials didn't talk to their game officials? Good to know.

[TFCRegina]

Lightning flashed at the half. In the broadcast they said that a 30 minute break is at the discretion of the referee. They took a 45 minute break, including the intermission. During that time the commentators didn't mention a single flash of lightning. I think they probably would have if they saw one.

"The fact that the pitch ended up waterlogged only illustrates how bad it was. "

The game wasn't called for water, or it wouldn't have started again in the second half.

"I changed the poll, you can change it back if you like."

Once I saw it was changed, I tried to delete it (since it was no longer my poll), but couldn't figure out how to do so. If someone else can change them, that explains why I've never seen anyone bother to use the poll feature before. I won't bother trying to make polls if someone else is just going to change them if they want to.

That's because during that time they were showing Memorial Cup hockey. Did you even watch the match?

[seathanaich]

It's really just a long version of every person I talk to on Commercial street in cafes of why they don't support anything.

Every person you talk to who criticises anything: (a) does so from a position of experience; (b) follows the organisation they are criticising for decades; (c) becomes very knowledgable about them; (d) and wants them to succeed? Only after all that, they criticise them when they make bone-headed mistakes? Somehow I don't think that applies to many of these people you talk to who "don't support anything" (whatever that means).

[seathanaich]

The paranoia here is bizarre and not necessary.
There's a lot that the CSA can be blamed for ... but blaming them for the weather?
Take off the tin-foil hat folks. Obama is American, America landed on the moon, 9/11 was done by terrorists, and the CSA didn't create a storm system that has killed a lot of people, and created such unusual weather conditions.

All of what you have written here is unrelated to anything I wrote. You are having a Straw Man Argument.

[seathanaich]

Cry me a river. Your post is almost as long and incomprehensible as your username.

Yes, when you can't support your opinions, by all means use baseless insults.

[socceronly]

Every person you talk to who criticises anything: (a) does so from a position of experience; (b) follows the organisation they are criticising for decades; (c) becomes very knowledgable about them; (d) and wants them to succeed? Only after all that, they criticise them when they make bone-headed mistakes? Somehow I don't think that applies to many of these people you talk to who "don't support anything" (whatever that means).

I didn't write that sentence very well.

You won't find any shortage of me criticizing the CSA. I have lots to say. But on this front, or this event, I really can't see what they did wrong.

I was there, the field was unplayable. The lightning was real. I don't know what else there is to say.

[seathanaich]

Also, it's offside for me to characterize your post as venom but characterizing an organization as stupid, incompetent, like an abusive boyfriend etc. falls under the guise of justified criticism? Interesting.
"The CSA is incompetent" is such a played out scapegoat for all the ills in Canadian soccer.

"it's offside for me to characterize your post as venom"

You can if you want. But if I don't think it is, I'll use the word as an example of exaggeration. Just like you'll welcome to use my words as exaggeration if you want to.

""The CSA is incompetent" is such a played out scapegoat for all the ills in Canadian soccer"

Yes, it is. But I haven't done so, so claiming I have is a Straw Man Argument Fallacy. What I've done is criticise the decision to stand around for 30 minutes when a game could have been played, and the ramifications of having done that. Disagree? Fine. But stick to criticising what I have said, not what a thousand other people have criticised for as long as you've followed Canadian soccer.

[seathanaich]

Sorry, after all you've said, I still don't know what you would have wanted the CSA to do last night.

Play the game, rather than delay it for what was a 45 minute rather than a 30 minute break. That's what I would have wanted them to do last night. The referee didn't do what he did in a vacuum, despite what some people here would like to pretend.

Defending referees is fine - I do that more than most do, including the inexplicable non-penalty for Camilo last Wednesday in Vancouver. But if that game was going to be called for weather, then it should have been called at the half. Waiting 45 minutes to play another 15 makes no sense.

[JamboAl]

In theory, I agree. In reality, there was lightning; I saw some pretty good flashes while we were all standing on aluminum benches. The referee tried to restart the match but 5 mins in, you could tell it wasn't going to work. In retrospect, it shouldn't have even gone to the 60th minute.

Play the game, rather than delay it for what was a 45 minute rather than a 30 minute break. That's what I would have wanted them to do last night. The referee didn't do what he did in a vacuum, despite what some people here would like to pretend.

Defending referees is fine - I do that more than most do, including the inexplicable non-penalty for Camilo last Wednesday in Vancouver. But if that game was going to be called for weather, then it should have been called at the half. Waiting 45 minutes to play another 15 makes no sense.