FIFA Corruption

[alberta white]

Reminds me of the old Joke About the difference between Catholic and Calvanist drinks cabinets.

The catholic one have glass doors on 'em.

[Grizzly]

On Fifa's website, Blatter says he knew about the payments but that they were legal at the time.

He said: "Back then, such payments could even be deducted from tax as a business expense. Today, that would be punishable under law.

"You can't judge the past on the basis of today's standards. Otherwise it would end up with moral justice. I can't have known about an offence that wasn't even one."

Isn't it unbelievable that the country of Switzerland only made it illegal to receive bribes within the last decade!?

No not surprising at all. Switzerland is a criminal state, the most corrupt state in the world. Except unlike most corrupt countries their own citizens benefit from the corruption and it is the citizens of other countries who suffer. It is no fluke that the majority of the world organizations are headquartered in Switzerland and that many of them have massive corruption. What is surprising is that not more is said/done about it but on the other hand that is not surprising either. If other countries governments were not benefiting from using Switzerland to do the things they can not legally do at home a state like that would not be permitted in the heart of Europe. And the same non-profit organizations who should also be leading the criticism of Switzerland happened to be headquartered where?

I am also amused by the sudden interest in FIFA corruption in England after they did not get awarded the World Cup. Interesting that IOC corruption is not a very big topic in England these days. And English criticism of FIFA reminds me a lot of US criticism of the UN. They ignore both the major role that they had in making the organization what it is today and also the fact they are still one of the major countries directing current policy in the organization.

[alberta white]

Absolultey spot on! Speaking as a Brit I find the whole Olympic thing an embarassment. The cost, the disruption, the North Korean style promotion. Even sell tickets for the soccer on the back of Beckham before they shafted him didn't even make me smile. I don't dislike the guy enough to find that remotley amusing. I just glad I'm not paying my taxes into it damn thing. Unfortunatley me mother, who lives in a little seaside town over 200 miles away from the big smoke, is.
Having Britain as the only country in the world at present , other than Syrria, to have weapons pointed towards it own citizens, almost makes one cry.


I comes to something when a person come home from work to find their abode invaded by soldiers because someone going to be scuttling round a running track in a few weeks; that the self same person be one, who up until a few months ago was Banned for Life as adrug cheat.

The spin the BOC put on having the rug pulled from under its bylaw was vomit inducing. I would wager that a far more intense fight would have been undertaken had the Olympics not been in the same year and in London.



On alighter note, Its nice toi see that the cyclist of England and Australia have turned frances internal Obsesion into an ashes test on wheels.

Oh and yes, by the way, Its apparently Illegal in Zurich to flush the toilet in an apartment block after 10pm. Or so I'm lead to believe.

[dsqpr]

^^ Did an Englishman piss in your beer Grizz? If not, it can be arranged!

[Grizzly]

^^ Did an Englishman piss in your beer Grizz? If not, it can be arranged!

Not yet but now you have me thinking about whether I left my beer unattended in your presence at Frappe a couple of years ago!

Every country is fairly capable of pointing out the faults of others while conveniently ignoring their own, Canada included, but the English do seem to have a special propensity for this. It probably has to do with some sort of post-colonial power syndrome, ie. we used to get whatever we wanted and now we don't so something must be unfair in the world.

[alberta white]

It not Propensity Grizz, its Pomposity!

You tend to find that the FA, and its County Associations are still littered with Little Englanders who think that a Plan for winning the World Cup should still involve individuals called Ginger who can fly Lancasters into the Rhur Valley and back before Brekkie!

The Tabloid and Broardsheet media, also take leave of their senses (and the often saged words of its regular soccer reporters) ever couple of years and puts out utter Bovine Scattology about how good the bloody English game is, when quite frankly its never any better than than last eight at any tournament these days.

Its like at christmas time when you can't get near the bar of your local Pub due to all those People who turn up "Just for a quick one for the season"
Personally I call it Amatures (two week) Fortnight.

As for Panorama. Yes it does have a very Snotty attitude at times, but its not the handmaid of the FA. the fact that the BBC aired its Hatchet Job on Warner and FIFA three days before the 2018 must speak volumes of it's independence of the FA and the Current Encumbered Government.

Personally I think it did the FA a favour. But the Pomposity again shows itself as the FA was lead a Merry dance through the bidding proces. Anybody with half a brain knew that, with Blatter's mantra of "development of the game" the last place the bid would be awared to is the one Country who's game is probably the most developed on the Planet.

[Trillium]

It not Propensity Grizz, its Pomposity!

Can we get back to FIFA corruption and where the money goes ... like where does the TV money for Canada go for each WC cycle, is it to the CSA President or someother nome from Switzerland ?

PS Grizz ... Alberta if you want to chat about the FA and Little Englanders .. I am all for it ... but make thread.

[alberta white]

Point taken.

[jpg75]

FIFA appointed former United States attorney Michael J. Garcia as lead prosecutor to investigate allegations of corruption in world football on Tuesday.

http://www.tsn.ca/soccer/story/?id=400800

One of Garcia's first tasks will be to inspect a Swiss court document on a World Cup kickbacks scandal to evaluate the behaviour of Blatter and other senior officials in the affair.

"He will have not only to write, but the duty to have this case analyzed on ethic, moral matters and then to report back to the executive committee," Blatter said at a news conference.


Why do i feel like that report will go nowhere? Edit: Actually, wait...

The 13-member panel, led by Swiss law professor Mark Pieth, wants Garcia to examine claims surrounding how Russia and Qatar came to get World Cup hosting rights in a December 2010 poll of FIFA's executive committee.

Hmmm...

[Gordon]

2010 WC match under suspicion.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/st...p-game?cc=5901