Brazil's World Cup Final Squad.

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Julio Cesar (Internazionale), Heurelho Gomes (Tottenham Hotspur), Doni (AS Roma)

Juan (AS Roma), Lucio (Internazionale), Luisao (Benfica), Thiago Silva (AC Milan), Maicon (Internazionale), Dani Alves (Barcelona), Gilberto (Cruzeiro)

Michel Bastos (Olympique Lyon), Gilberto Silva (Panathinaikos), Felipe Melo (Juventus), Josue (VfL Wolfsburg), Kleberson (Flamengo), Elano (Galatasaray), Ramires (Benfica), Kaká (Real Madrid), Julio Baptista (AS Roma)

Luis Fabiano (Sevilla), Nilmar (Villarreal), Robinho (Santos) en Grafite (VfL Wolfsburg).


No Ronaldinho, Diego, Pato, Thiago Motta, Alex (Chelsea) and Adriano. I expected a lot more quality in midfield.....Gilberto Silva, Josue, Kleberson and Julio Baptista should be nowhere near South Africa in my opinion. I thought Brazil were going to win this with ease but I even fancy us (Holland) beating them.

[canucklefan]

There are some new players I didn't know about them. I'm surprised that Grafite is part of the squad and at the same time, I'm happy for him. About Ronaldinho, he got what he deserved as he lost motivation, but I don't understand why Pato has not been called.

[Trillium]

There are some new players I didn't know about them. I'm surprised that Grafite is part of the squad and at the same time, I'm happy for him. About Ronaldinho, he got what he deserved as he lost motivation, but I don't understand why Pato has not been called.

Chosen a team he thinks has the mental strength to overcome what could be difficult enviorment in SA. Pato is young he is presumed to not have the mental power to overcome things like guns in the street being shot at buses or tossed items, do not underestimate the need for mental strength .. thus Holland perhaps .. but more likely a Germany or hate to say it and England who can draw on historic reserves... yeah I know lots of you think its all star power... but Dunga is right pick the right set of heads.

[canucklefan]

Trillium, I understand your point but Pato plays for AC Milan, that must say something about his head, and when Ronaldo was there, Pato scored more goals than him. Also, he was doing better than Ronaldinho. IMO, Pato looked better at his club than his two compatriots and teammates.

[beachesl]

Well a lot of Brazilians are upset by the very defensive nature of Dunga's team, with or without the caipirinha overdoses, because they see it as a betrayal of free flowing spirited attack.

However, Dunga is a very good coach (at least he is a real coach, unlike Maradona) who has built a very formidable team. They are still the genuine favourites, in my opinion.

Remember, defence wins World Cups. It is the real reason Brazil have won their five (the flashiness sometimes obcurs that). It is what kept them in the match England should have run away with in 2002. It is what cost them the disaster of the final against France in 1998, and in 2006. Failure to have a coherent defensive is the key to past Brazilian disasters. Look at 1994, a completely defensive team that was the only way they could have won, and they were crticized, so the new coach in 1998 went completely bananas in the other direction. Brazilians will never be happy.

Adriano is a shadow of his past self. Ronaldinho showed odd flashes of brilliance with AC Milan , but has largely been ineffective.

Brazil should be thankful they have Dunga to mold a real team. If it was based on individuals, Argentina would now win hands down, but they won't because they have no coherent strategy.

[amacpher]

Well a lot of Brazilians are upset by the very defensive nature of Dunga's team, with or without the caipirinha overdoses, because they see it as a betrayal of free flowing spirited attack.



Samba futebol died 20+ years ago. They should get over it.

Still though, this has to be one of the weakest Brasil squads I've seen in a while. I know this is largely the team that won CONMEBOL qualifying, but that all ended some 7 months ago. At some point Dunga has to factor in what players had a terrible 2009/10 season and perhaps exclude them (Felipe Melo being a prime example).


Ronaldinho showed odd flashes of brilliance with AC Milan , but has largely been ineffective.

Oooo... I have to disagree there. He carried Milan for long stretches this season IMO! Admittedly I stopped watching Milan games once they fell out of the title race so I can't comment on his form over the past month, but before April he was on fire!

That said, I can sort of see the logic in excluding Ronaldinho (distraction-factor). That is... until I see the inclusion of Robinho. WTF? Robinho is crap, a party-goer and brings his own distractions with him.

[Sam]

Dunga seems to have thrown club form out the window in picking his squad, but thats what he did all throughout qualifying and it worked for him. Brazil's back four will be the best in the tournament though with Maicon-Lucio-Juan and either Bastos or Thiago Silva at left back. That's a scary good back line and then Melo, whos been crap for Juve but still has the potential to do something, and Gilberto Silva (another one who's club form has been ignored) holding the midfield they are not going to conceed very often.

[yomurphy1]

I only person I truly don't like in the squad is Gilberto Silva. At his age he's become a liability for the Brazilians.

[amacpher]

Dunga seems to have thrown club form out the window in picking his squad, but thats what he did all throughout qualifying and it worked for him.

Sort of. But I think qualifying was more about Argentina being bad than Brasil being so good. If Argentina were at their normal level, then Brasil probably would've finished only one point ahead of 4th place in C'BOL qualifying.

[Unnamed Trialist]

Agree with Andrew once again, a weak squad. We have seen a talented Brazil with no midfield before, with even a counterattack style, but like this, with that strike team? Nilmar, he is absolutely second rate, it is unthinkable. And very little critical ball talent in the midfield.

What I find odd is that Argentina, France and Brazil have all made questionable selections, which I think is going to hurt them. Of the three I think Argentina has the best attack, we'll find out in a week. Brazil is defensive, yes, but thin on centre backs. But none of them will really make you fearful, you look at their faces and since there is no cause for awe, you can take them on.

[socceronly]

Voyageurs could take that team.

[Canuck Oranje]

This list appears to be about keeping the group that more or less got them to South Africa. There may be some small changes but most have played a bit with Brazil in the last few years.

Brazil could go with a collection of the best individual players they have but in the end, like 2006, it doesn't guarantee better performance. This is a relatively short tournament. I think the health of players going in is likely the biggest concern.

As for Samba soccer, Brazilian club teams are looking more European all the time. I think Dunga's main theme is that it is team first.

[moris.green]

Buddies, I don't have too much idea about Brazil squad. In case of Italy, Lippi left out Luca Toni,main striker of 2006 World Cup. Totti was also rejected on ground of fitness issues.







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[jpg75]

Buddy boy, here's the Italy squad thread:

http://www.cansoc.org/showthread.php?39685-Italy-s-quot-Training-quot-Squad-Named

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BTW, was watching the Santos-Gremio Copa do Brasil match on Wednesday and Robinho looks to be in good form with a crafty chip of the keeper for Santos' 2nd goal.