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Scottie
05-25-2009, 06:25 PM
Might as well start a pre-match thread...

I'm going to be in Vancouver for this match and was wondering where you southsiders gather pre-match. Can't wait to have a beer with all the folks I met in montreal last year and watch the caps in swangard for the first time!

kyam
05-25-2009, 07:48 PM
quote:Originally posted by Scottie

Might as well start a pre-match thread...

I'm going to be in Vancouver for this match and was wondering where you southsiders gather pre-match. Can't wait to have a beer with all the folks I met in montreal last year and watch the caps in swangard for the first time!


As much as I dislike the Impact, I can't help but support them, tie or a win for the Impact would be ideal, but the gap between the Caps and the Impact is really huge...realistically, I predict a 2-nil win for the whitecaps.

MastaK
05-25-2009, 08:19 PM
I wish the Caps a win.

My heart is still with Montreal...but if we're not gonna win the championship, i sure hope Vancouver does [:p]

Rudi
05-25-2009, 08:19 PM
I foresee a Caps win as well.

This will be a harder fought match than last week's, with the Impact pushing hard for the win, but I think they'll expose themselves at the back allowing Vancouver to capitalize.

The Caps are simply the better team of the two, and on home turf should win.

Now that I've posted this, I'm sure the Impact will have a blinder. [:p]

nazzer
05-25-2009, 08:41 PM
will this match appear online anywhere?

SteveBeau
05-25-2009, 10:43 PM
quote:Originally posted by kyam


quote:Originally posted by Scottie

Might as well start a pre-match thread...

I'm going to be in Vancouver for this match and was wondering where you southsiders gather pre-match. Can't wait to have a beer with all the folks I met in montreal last year and watch the caps in swangard for the first time!


As much as I dislike the Impact, I can't help but support them, tie or a win for the Impact would be ideal, but the gap between the Caps and the Impact is really huge...realistically, I predict a 2-nil win for the whitecaps.


The Impact outshot the caps 18-6 last game and hit the crossbar 3 times, yaa..HUGE gap!?... (rolls eyes)

jpg75
05-26-2009, 07:47 AM
Let's go Impact!

A Montreal win means TFC need only a draw in either of the last 2 games to win the NCC.

Tuscan
05-26-2009, 08:30 AM
This one's on Sportsnet at 7:30PT, and as for an online feed, I think Radio-Canada will be offering a feed along with their tv coverage as well.

MTL_4_LIFE
05-26-2009, 09:30 AM
Caps better win big against MTL & TFC

SeanKeay
05-26-2009, 12:23 PM
quote:Originally posted by MTL_4_LIFE

Caps better win big against MTL & TFC






Montreal for life eh.... nice to see you cheering agaisnt your team.

Rudi
05-26-2009, 12:25 PM
^ HAHAHAHAHAA :D

Trident
05-26-2009, 02:55 PM
quote:Originally posted by Rudi

^ HAHAHAHAHAA :D


Considering our win helps you guys, I can see why some people think like that.

Think of yourselves like the KKK as played in south park.

Still, I see a montreal win, Vancouver had a lot of luck last game.

Daniel
05-26-2009, 05:19 PM
I'm a Montreal supporter and if we can win, we're still in. If Vancouver can then beat Toronto at Swangard, it wil all come down to the final matchday with TFC @ MTL.

Rudi
05-26-2009, 05:21 PM
quote:Originally posted by Trident

Considering our win helps you guys, I can see why some people think like that.
I gotta say, that's pretty stupid.

As much as a Montreal win would "help" TFC, it helps Montreal infinitely more.

What kind of a fan cheers against his own club when they are still mathematically able to win the competition?

Grizzly
05-26-2009, 05:31 PM
I am hoping for a Montreal win. However, I would rather we lose than tie and if we lose I hope we lose by a big margin but as long as we still have a chance I hope we win.

Mr.Impact
05-26-2009, 08:30 PM
Montreal will be without Captain Nevio Pizzolitto. (serving 1 game automatic suspension for getting 2 yellow cards in championship games)Cedric Joqueviel, Rocco Placentino and David Testo all out with thigh Injuries. On a positive note Leo DiLorenzo is finally back. Hopefully he will be used as a midfielder.

http://www.montrealimpact.com/News/News.aspx?language=EN

Here is my starting 11


<center>----------------------------Matt Jordan-----------------</center>
<center>Simon Gatti----- Kevin Sekuda-------Adam Braz------------Zan Zan----</center>
<center>Tony Danatelli-----Joey Gjetsen-------Sandro Grande-----Leo DiLorenzo</center>
<center>--------------------------Eddy Sebrango-------Roberto Brown----------</center>

jonovision
05-26-2009, 10:58 PM
quote:Originally posted by Mr.Impact

Montreal will be without Captain Nevio Pizzolitto. (serving 1 game automatic suspension for getting 2 yellow cards in championship games)Cedric Joqueviel, Rocco Placentino and David Testo all out with thigh Injuries. On a positive note Leo DiLorenzo is finally back. Hopefully he will be used as a midfielder.

http://www.montrealimpact.com/News/News.aspx?language=EN

Here is my starting 11


<center>----------------------------Matt Jordan-----------------</center>
<center>Simon Gatti----- Kevin Sekuda-------Adam Braz------------Zan Zan----</center>
<center>Tony Danatelli-----Joey Gjetsen-------Sandro Grande-----Leo DiLorenzo</center>
<center>--------------------------Eddy Sebrango-------Roberto Brown----------</center>


I don't know what other options they have, but if Sakuda is starting in central defense, Vancouver will score 2 or 3 at least.

morbital
05-27-2009, 03:13 AM
quote:Originally posted by Scottie

Might as well start a pre-match thread...

I'm going to be in Vancouver for this match and was wondering where you southsiders gather pre-match. Can't wait to have a beer with all the folks I met in montreal last year and watch the caps in swangard for the first time!


Scott, it will be good to see you again! we usually gather on the south east side of the outside of the stadium for some pre-match bevys, across the parking lot at one of the park picnic tables

Jeffery S.
05-27-2009, 07:27 AM
quote:Originally posted by morbital


quote:Originally posted by Scottie

Might as well start a pre-match thread...

I'm going to be in Vancouver for this match and was wondering where you southsiders gather pre-match. Can't wait to have a beer with all the folks I met in montreal last year and watch the caps in swangard for the first time!


Scott, it will be good to see you again! we usually gather on the south east side of the outside of the stadium for some pre-match bevys, across the parking lot at one of the park picnic tables


You forgot to add behind the bushes, with the brown bags...

Keano
05-27-2009, 09:17 AM
quote:Originally posted by jonovision


quote:Originally posted by Mr.Impact

Montreal will be without Captain Nevio Pizzolitto. (serving 1 game automatic suspension for getting 2 yellow cards in championship games)Cedric Joqueviel, Rocco Placentino and David Testo all out with thigh Injuries. On a positive note Leo DiLorenzo is finally back. Hopefully he will be used as a midfielder.

http://www.montrealimpact.com/News/News.aspx?language=EN

Here is my starting 11


<center>----------------------------Matt Jordan-----------------</center>
<center>Simon Gatti----- Kevin Sekuda-------Adam Braz------------Zan Zan----</center>
<center>Tony Danatelli-----Joey Gjetsen-------Sandro Grande-----Leo DiLorenzo</center>
<center>--------------------------Eddy Sebrango-------Roberto Brown----------</center>


I don't know what other options they have, but if Sakuda is starting in central defense, Vancouver will score 2 or 3 at least.


He hasn't been playing well. I'd rather go with Surprenant, who did travel with the team.

Metro
05-27-2009, 11:12 AM
quote:Originally posted by Grizzly

I am hoping for a Montreal win. However, I would rather we lose than tie and if we lose I hope we lose by a big margin but as long as we still have a chance I hope we win.


Soooo...if Montreal is trailing by one goal early in the second half, what will you be hoping to happen? ;)

Mr.Impact
05-27-2009, 11:21 AM
quote:Originally posted by jonovision


quote:Originally posted by Mr.Impact

Montreal will be without Captain Nevio Pizzolitto. (serving 1 game automatic suspension for getting 2 yellow cards in championship games)Cedric Joqueviel, Rocco Placentino and David Testo all out with thigh Injuries. On a positive note Leo DiLorenzo is finally back. Hopefully he will be used as a midfielder.

http://www.montrealimpact.com/News/News.aspx?language=EN

Here is my starting 11


<center>----------------------------Matt Jordan-----------------</center>
<center>Simon Gatti----- Kevin Sekuda-------Adam Braz------------Zan Zan----</center>
<center>Tony Danatelli-----Joey Gjetsen-------Sandro Grande-----Leo DiLorenzo</center>
<center>--------------------------Eddy Sebrango-------Roberto Brown----------</center>


I don't know what other options they have, but if Sakuda is starting in central defense, Vancouver will score 2 or 3 at least.



Other options could include moving a mid into Zan Zans left back spot, Moving Zan Zan to centreal Defense, and having DeLo or Deroux starting at Left Back.

TFC07
05-27-2009, 11:33 AM
Hopefully this game ends up in a draw.

Keano
05-27-2009, 11:44 AM
quote:Originally posted by Mr.Impact


quote:Originally posted by jonovision


quote:Originally posted by Mr.Impact

Montreal will be without Captain Nevio Pizzolitto. (serving 1 game automatic suspension for getting 2 yellow cards in championship games)Cedric Joqueviel, Rocco Placentino and David Testo all out with thigh Injuries. On a positive note Leo DiLorenzo is finally back. Hopefully he will be used as a midfielder.

http://www.montrealimpact.com/News/News.aspx?language=EN

Here is my starting 11


<center>----------------------------Matt Jordan-----------------</center>
<center>Simon Gatti----- Kevin Sekuda-------Adam Braz------------Zan Zan----</center>
<center>Tony Danatelli-----Joey Gjetsen-------Sandro Grande-----Leo DiLorenzo</center>
<center>--------------------------Eddy Sebrango-------Roberto Brown----------</center>


I don't know what other options they have, but if Sakuda is starting in central defense, Vancouver will score 2 or 3 at least.



Other options could include moving a mid into Zan Zans left back spot, Moving Zan Zan to centreal Defense, and having DeLo or Deroux starting at Left Back.


DeLo was good at left back last year but Suprenant deserves a chance IMO.

ottawaguy2009
05-27-2009, 12:24 PM
prediction: Impact win 2-1.

Grizzly
05-27-2009, 12:28 PM
quote:Originally posted by Metro


quote:Originally posted by Grizzly

I am hoping for a Montreal win. However, I would rather we lose than tie and if we lose I hope we lose by a big margin but as long as we still have a chance I hope we win.


Soooo...if Montreal is trailing by one goal early in the second half, what will you be hoping to happen? ;)


I will be hoping for a Montreal victory. Indeed I will hope for Montreal the whole game. However, a tie doesn't help us at all and I would prefer Vancouver win the Cup instead of Toronto so my preference in result possibilities would be:

1 Montreal victory
2 Vancouver victory

Also hopefully whoever wins will win by a large margin.

loyola
05-27-2009, 12:34 PM
Ok, so in the case of a MTL loss you would prefer a 6-0 defeat instead of a 1-0 defeat....

hmmmm, I must admit that I would never wish Canada lose that way in order for another team to qualify ahead of another one that I don't like, but I guess it's your opinion.

Grizzly
05-27-2009, 12:47 PM
quote:Originally posted by loyola

Ok, so in the case of a MTL loss you would prefer a 6-0 defeat instead of a 1-0 defeat....

hmmmm, I must admit that I would never wish Canada lose that way in order for another team to qualify ahead of another one that I don't like, but I guess it's your opinion.


I wouldn't want to lose 6-0 because that would be embarrassing but if a 2 or 3-0 helped Vancouver win the Cup over TFC since we couldn't win it I would be ok with that. If you don't have strong loves and hates for different teams that is your choice but many hardcore soccer fans do. I follow German soccer and my first hope every weekend is that Sachsen Leipzig wins and my second hope is that our city rivals Lokomotiv Leipzig lose. I had an Argentine girlfriend who was a River Plate supporter and who never had a good thing to say about Brazilians but if Boca were playing a Brazilian team she was Brazilian for a day. You will find that the world over where there are passionate soccer fans and there is no reason it should be different here. As far as Canada goes, there is no international team that I hate enough to wish Canada to lose by a large margin.

Rudi
05-27-2009, 12:51 PM
quote:Originally posted by loyola

Ok, so in the case of a MTL loss you would prefer a 6-0 defeat instead of a 1-0 defeat....

hmmmm, I must admit that I would never wish Canada lose that way in order for another team to qualify ahead of another one that I don't like, but I guess it's your opinion.

In their eyes, the only thing worse than Montreal losing the Cup is Toronto winning it. :D

Grizzly
05-27-2009, 12:57 PM
quote:Originally posted by Rudi


quote:Originally posted by loyola

Ok, so in the case of a MTL loss you would prefer a 6-0 defeat instead of a 1-0 defeat....

hmmmm, I must admit that I would never wish Canada lose that way in order for another team to qualify ahead of another one that I don't like, but I guess it's your opinion.

In their eyes, the only thing worse than Montreal losing the Cup is Toronto winning it. :D


Almost, the worst thing is Montreal losing it, the second worst thing would be Toronto winning it.

JamboAl
05-27-2009, 03:53 PM
quote:Originally posted by loyola

Ok, so in the case of a MTL loss you would prefer a 6-0 defeat instead of a 1-0 defeat....

hmmmm, I must admit that I would never wish Canada lose that way in order for another team to qualify ahead of another one that I don't like, but I guess it's your opinion.


Soccer fans have an uncanny tribalism which is creeping into the Impact-TFC rivalry. I don't see this as a bad thing; in fact, I think it's rather good. [}:)]

Would one ever want their own team getting humiliated so that a bitter rival wouldn't win something? I can't speak from personal experience, but I wouldn't put it beyond most of us.

Tuscan
05-27-2009, 04:45 PM
According to the CSA, the game will be broadcast live at 7:30 PT, but Sportsnet doesn't show the game being broadcast until 10:30 on all channels. What's going on here? Radio-Canada is showing it on a tape delay at 11:00 according to the CSA, but their site says 11:30 CT (if you set it to Saskatchewan). Why can't soccer broadcasts be cut and dried simple? All this television misinformation gets annoying quickly.

jonovision
05-27-2009, 05:15 PM
quote:Originally posted by Tuscan

According to the CSA, the game will be broadcast live at 7:30 PT, but Sportsnet doesn't show the game being broadcast until 10:30 on all channels. What's going on here? Radio-Canada is showing it on a tape delay at 11:00 according to the CSA, but their site says 11:30 CT (if you set it to Saskatchewan). Why can't soccer broadcasts be cut and dried simple? All this television misinformation gets annoying quickly.

Did you select the correct region before clicking on "Interactive schedule" at the Sportsnet site?

Sportsnet.ca isn't loading for me right now, but it did show the game showing live at 10:30 pm et on all regional channels for people in Ontario.

Peter Schaad
05-27-2009, 06:09 PM
The ex-Whitecaps in Montreal make this game a tough one to call. Sebrango will be pumped, Donatelli and Gjertson are solid players and were always good at Swangard.

I think Testo being out hurts...because he was great in this same game last year.

Trident
05-27-2009, 06:54 PM
quote:Originally posted by Peter Schaad

The ex-Whitecaps in Montreal make this game a tough one to call. Sebrango will be pumped, Donatelli and Gjertson are solid players and were always good at Swangard.

I think Testo being out hurts...because he was great in this same game last year.


But...he was also terrible against Toronto this year.

Difficult to say which one he would be.

Tintin
05-27-2009, 07:20 PM
quote:Originally posted by jonovision


quote:Originally posted by Tuscan

According to the CSA, the game will be broadcast live at 7:30 PT, but Sportsnet doesn't show the game being broadcast until 10:30 on all channels. What's going on here? Radio-Canada is showing it on a tape delay at 11:00 according to the CSA, but their site says 11:30 CT (if you set it to Saskatchewan). Why can't soccer broadcasts be cut and dried simple? All this television misinformation gets annoying quickly.

Did you select the correct region before clicking on "Interactive schedule" at the Sportsnet site?

An excellent point. I seem to recall the old Sportsnet site claimed that you could set the thing to remember which region you're in, but of course it never worked, and always went switched back to Ontario automatically every time the page was closed, just like the new one. And people in Ontario wonder why the rest of the country doesn't like them.

Anyway, if you set the Sportsnet site to Pacific, it is on live on all channels.

BrennanFan
05-27-2009, 08:46 PM
quote:Originally posted by TFC07

Hopefully this game ends up in a draw.



I should want this too, but I dont. I am hoping the Whitecaps or Impact make things interesting, only because I really want TFC to clinch the Cup in Mtl.

Jarrek
05-27-2009, 09:32 PM
Can I watch this match anywhere online?

BrennanFan
05-27-2009, 09:38 PM
quote:Originally posted by Jarrek

Can I watch this match anywhere online?


should be here

http://www.radio-canada.ca/sports/

Rudi
05-27-2009, 10:31 PM
HT 0-0.

Montreal don't look like they need to win this game. Very pedestrian out there.

BrennanFan
05-27-2009, 10:36 PM
Mtl has next to nothing going forward. Sebrango, Gjertsen and Grande have lost it.

Haber is impressing me. Gage is ok but missed an "unmissable" free header from the 6 yrd box. Gbeke really told him off after that miss.

the southsiders are coming across on sportsnet ok as well. the :fat bastard"s on the goal kicks are clear as day.

BHTC Mike
05-27-2009, 10:38 PM
quote:Originally posted by Rudi

HT 0-0.

Montreal don't look like they need to win this game. Very pedestrian out there.

They keep getting into decent space out wide but their crossing is abominable. 50% behind the net; 50% not making it past the first man. I don't see them getting anything through the middle.

Vancouver just needs to take their chances and the tournament will be "on" again.

canucker
05-27-2009, 10:45 PM
Haber indeed looks very good to me. Gage has done very well except for the awful miss on the gimme header with no man on him. Gbeke seems to be doing a lot of telling off of his teammates and not much else.

canucker
05-27-2009, 10:51 PM
Jordan saves a PK from Gbeke. Still 0-0. Brutal penalty take by Gbeke.

Gbeke did really well to earn that PK, he's tough to move off the ball.

AvroArrow
05-27-2009, 10:52 PM
Caps miss the penalty and then miss a sitter of a rebound. Brutal...

BrennanFan
05-27-2009, 10:52 PM
nash shoulda taken it.

Rudi
05-27-2009, 10:52 PM
Does no one want to win this game?

Awful.

mtroads
05-27-2009, 10:55 PM
Very poorly taken penalty by Gbeke. Vancouver really needs a win here. If not, they'll be in tough against TFC since Nash will miss the game thanks to picking up his second yellow today.

BrennanFan
05-27-2009, 10:58 PM
i cannot believe a guy like Rosenlund can't get into one of these teams. he's good enough to walk on to either one of these midfields.

BrennanFan
05-27-2009, 11:03 PM
GAGE!

canucker
05-27-2009, 11:03 PM
Gage scores!

Very nice strike from him, this kid is going to be a good one.

1-0 Whitecaps.

mtroads
05-27-2009, 11:05 PM
nice to see a goal in this match. That will probably eliminate Montreal from contention.

Rudi
05-27-2009, 11:08 PM
Montreal has been brutal going forward this game. I don't see them getting the (at least) two goals they need to win this.

Where's Placentino, he's pretty much their most dynamic attacker these days.

BrennanFan
05-27-2009, 11:11 PM
he's injured.

Vic
05-27-2009, 11:15 PM
Too bad everyone had to watch the Champions League today. Neither team shows any interest in using possession to build an attack, it's all hyperspeed like Pellerud ball or a kids game. Fun for a bit but after a while it gets a little annoying.

Dobson and Forrest bring the game into disrepute.

SteveBeau
05-27-2009, 11:27 PM
The southsiders sound so cute....

Rudi
05-27-2009, 11:33 PM
quote:Originally posted by SteveBeau

The southsiders sound so cute....

They sound victorious... [:p]

BrennanFan
05-27-2009, 11:35 PM
finally the V's cup will get a new home. I was sick to death of Mtl winning it all the damn time.

mtl aren't going anywhere with that team. they need to rebuild, get younger.

next game will be good.

Lord Bob
05-27-2009, 11:42 PM
You know what, as nails as the Whitecaps win was, congratulations are due to the Montreal Impact for winning eight damned Voyageurs Cups in a row.

I'm going to go ahead and say that's never going to happen again.

tmcmurph
05-27-2009, 11:45 PM
braz is a disaster

Calgary Boomer
05-27-2009, 11:50 PM
quote:Originally posted by tmcmurph

braz is a disaster


He'd have to get SO much better to be a disaster. Sakuda isn't a defender either...he played wide midfield for 8 seasons with the Sounders.

Somehow, I still think the Whitecaps will be relying on Montreal for a little help in the last game...

Trident
05-27-2009, 11:58 PM
Sebrango shouldnt have suited up
Grande shouldnt have either, but not for personal reasons like Eddy
Byers shouldnt play for the team, he's invisible, has been all season.

Jordan is king.

Southsiders just might be the quietest supporters group in existence.

nazzer
05-28-2009, 12:09 AM
quote:Originally posted by Vic

Too bad everyone had to watch the Champions League today. Neither team shows any interest in using possession to build an attack, it's all hyperspeed like Pellerud ball or a kids game. Fun for a bit but after a while it gets a little annoying.

Dobson and Forrest bring the game into disrepute.



I watched the game in french, could you elaborate?

Tuscan
05-28-2009, 12:11 AM
I had my fingers crossed for Haber tonight, he played excellent in the first half, but didn't show up as much in the second half. He needed the sub off, shame we couldn't have seen more of Orgill in the second half.

Montreal just didn't seem to have it tonight, Eddy in particular had a terrible game. His father's condition must be affecting him quite a bit, he wasn't very focused all game long. Deroux was alright, but it seemed he didn't have any support all game long. Overall, Montreal were under-performing, which is a shame because they play beautiful footie when all are healthy.

Last two games should be great. Hopefully Montreal still has something left in the tank for this competition.

Bxl Boy
05-28-2009, 12:16 AM
I watched on the SRC too
Thanks to them, my TV screen usually 28" was 19" because of wide black bands all around the image

Krammerhead
05-28-2009, 12:33 AM
quote:Originally posted by Trident

Sebrango shouldnt have suited up
Grande shouldnt have either, but not for personal reasons like Eddy
Byers shouldnt play for the team, he's invisible, has been all season.

Jordan is king.

Southsiders just might be the quietest supporters group in existence.


No, the southsiders were so loud, that 2 minutes after setting up the microphone in the southside the technician who had assured us it was a directional mic and would not be a problem in picking up profanities, had to remove it.

nolando
05-28-2009, 12:35 AM
my two cents...not a lot of european bound players playing in this one - in fact I wouldn't rate many as showing enough promise to be anything other than career USLers

a somewhat entertaining match - lots of aggression and unfocused attacks, not much finesse - astoundingly terrible finishing

guys with short espressos in MLS who showed why they are no longer fit for even subprime-time: Braz, Brillant, Parke
guys with some promise and (maybe) a(nother) shot at big(ger) time : Gage (c'mon - he's 18 for pete's sake), Haber
guys with big mouths who shout aggressively at teammates for missed opps and then miss their own sitters without the slightest apology: Gbeke
invisible man (now you notice him, now you don't): Grande
team really missing mighty SVG power: Caps
teams that looked decidedly USL calibre, and a clear step behind MLS: Caps, Impact
supporter's group not getting enough respect: southsiders
league of extraordinary old men: Nash, Sebrango, Hirano
fastest on the pitch: that friggin' squirrel

Krammerhead
05-28-2009, 12:39 AM
quote:guys with big mouths who shout aggressively at teammates for missed opps and then miss their own sitters without the slightest apology: Gbeke

Yeah, you noticed that as well.

Krammerhead
05-28-2009, 12:43 AM
quote:supporter's group not getting enough respect: southsiders

No, we got plenty of respect. After the game the Whitecaps to a man came and shook our hands, and Sebrango gave us a clap before the game. Not only that but we were filmed constantly during the game and the Province newspaper sent a reporter out to cover us for the match. The only ones with the disrespect are idiots watching the game on TV not understanding that if you aren't mic'ed you aren't going to make a sound on TV.

Footy
05-28-2009, 12:49 AM
A good game 2 teams that really play well against each other but the Whitecaps played well considering Marlon Jmaes being injured still leaves us missing sitters. Montreal looked tired and need of a over haul to kick start this team. Southsiders were on fire tonight great chants and good numbers out.

Rudi
05-28-2009, 12:49 AM
quote:Originally posted by Krammerhead

The only one with the disrespect is one idiot watching the game on TV not understanding that if you aren't mic'ed you aren't going to make a sound on TV.

Fixed your post. I thought they sounded fine.

Trident just seems bitter and needed to take a shot at something, because his team played honestly the worst I've seen a pro team play this year (and it wasn't an off-game for them, either).

Rudi
05-28-2009, 12:51 AM
quote:Originally posted by nolando

guys with short espressos in MLS who showed why they are no longer fit for even subprime-time: Braz, Brillant, Parke

Parke's had a long MLS career, just for a crap team.

Rudi
05-28-2009, 12:51 AM
quote:Originally posted by nolando

guys with short espressos in MLS who showed why they are no longer fit for even subprime-time: Braz, Brillant, Parke

Parke's had a long MLS career, just for a crap team.

Krammerhead
05-28-2009, 12:52 AM
quote:Originally posted by Rudi


quote:Originally posted by Krammerhead

The only one with the disrespect is one idiot watching the game on TV not understanding that if you aren't mic'ed you aren't going to make a sound on TV.

Fixed your post. I thought they sounded fine.

Trident just seems bitter and needed to take a shot at something, because his team played honestly the worst I've seen a pro team play this year (and it wasn't an off-game for them, either).


Sorry, thanks for the correction.

Krammerhead
05-28-2009, 12:52 AM
quote:Originally posted by Rudi


quote:Originally posted by Krammerhead

The only one with the disrespect is one idiot watching the game on TV not understanding that if you aren't mic'ed you aren't going to make a sound on TV.

Fixed your post. I thought they sounded fine.

Trident just seems bitter and needed to take a shot at something, because his team played honestly the worst I've seen a pro team play this year (and it wasn't an off-game for them, either).


Sorry, thanks for the correction.

masster
05-28-2009, 02:15 AM
Awesome to see Scottie make the trip from Calgary for this game. Sorry we couldn't have hung out more.

The Gbeke penalty was awful. Caps needed that for Goal differential as well. I thought the Caps playing at home would have a puncher's chance against Toronto, but with Nash suspended, that may be gone now. This isn't to say that Nash is a world beater; it just means that the Caps don't have an adequate substitute. Did anybody record this game? Will it be available for download somewhere?

Trident
05-28-2009, 05:08 AM
Oh my, all of a sudden I get jumped on for saying you guys were quiet.

Sure, I know my team lost, I know it was there fault, and I knew we werent going to win. I'm not surprised or angry at it.

But the fact is, other than your stuff after a goal kick, the KC and the sunshine band song early on, you were quiet, and it wasn't due to the lack of mic, you could hear ambient babble from the crowd.


Don't get hurt because I said you were quiet, and I hardly see what Rudi has to do there calling me an idiot for it. I wouldn't mind if it was someone from Vancouver, but you shouldn't stick your nose in our business.

SteveBeau
05-28-2009, 05:20 AM
quote:Originally posted by Trident

Oh my, all of a sudden I get jumped on for saying you guys were quiet.

Sure, I know my team lost, I know it was there fault, and I knew we werent going to win. I'm not surprised or angry at it.

But the fact is, other than your stuff after a goal kick, the KC and the sunshine band song early on, you were quiet, and it wasn't due to the lack of mic, you could hear ambient babble from the crowd.


Don't get hurt because I said you were quiet, and I hardly see what Rudi has to do there calling me an idiot for it. I wouldn't mind if it was someone from Vancouver, but you shouldn't stick your nose in our business.


It might have been the TV but the crowd as a whole was real quiet...That was probably the quietest "game-winning" crowd i have ever heard on TV at the end of the match...And if someone wants to call me an idiot for that, fine..i won't lose any sleep over it

ottawaguy2009
05-28-2009, 07:58 AM
A few observations:

IMPACT
DeRoux played well on that left flank. Extremely fast. Full of surprise attacks and bursts of speed. He shows a lot of promise. Only qualm would be that he might yet be a bit young and inexperienced for such a match. I say this because he seemed like he knew what he wanted to do: get the ball, carry it to the goal line and cross it in. But Knight is way to good a defender for the same play over and over. A larger, more experienced player might have held the ball a little more, weighing his options and not just run pell-mell for the goal line.

Grande I love his style. He's fast and cuts the ball well. Has an excellent stride and doesn't hold the ball too long. Seems to know exactly when to pass it off. Apart from his temper, I'd like to see him given a chance with the MNT.

Jordan Not as impressive as he's been other games.

Braz Had a good game for the most part. Still not MNT material.

VANCOUVER
Knight An excellent defender for such a young age. Him and I are the same age I believe. He has long legs and can grab the ball and tackle so cleanly and efficiently. Too bad he isn't Canadian. Imagine this for a back 4 line:
Knight - Harmse (or Jackovic) - Serioux - Brennan

Moose I love his passion and zeal. His throw ins are awesome (the running thrown seems to be Vancouver's style. 5 metre runs to the touch line and a powerful, straight throw) Not sure that he's MNT material but the fact that he plays with such heart makes me want to see him have a chance someday.

Nash Seems to have a bad attitude and quite the temper. It's understandable. I've lost my temper in games before. He comes across as though he is superior to his teammates (perhaps because he wears the captain's armband). But I just don't feel that he's all that he thinks he is.

The team in general:
-played a strong English style game I thought.
-Their lines were rigid walls, hardly moving except for corners and throw ins. They held their ground
-Solid defensively. Game 2 vs. TFC will be a fairly even game. Vancouver doesn't have the offense that TFC has but their defense is arguably just as good if not better.
-Definitely the better of the two, Canadian, USL teams this year

tmcmurph
05-28-2009, 08:49 AM
^"Braz Had a good game for the most part. Still not MNT material."

What? I thought he looked terrible. I was hoping the Caps would exploit him by attacking him. Dumb pull down in the box, dangerous play, poor choice on the ball, could have been red carded. He is a 20/80% type. 20% good and 80% bad so far this season.

Anyway good to see the Caps win. The early schedule has definitely worked against Montreal who seem to be a slow starters. Last year and this I thought they would burn up the USL but Seattle's record is safe for another year it appears.

superbrad
05-28-2009, 09:27 AM
I too thought the crowd was very quiet. I have my insider at the game so I'll ask him and report back.

Keano
05-28-2009, 09:41 AM
Braz was bad. Sakuda is bad. Gatti is fine going forward but not natural back there. Unitl Pesoli Joqeuviel and/or Pizzolitto are back we have no natural CBs. It looks like crap out there. Placentino's absence was noticeable as Brillant is not as quality, although DeRoux is useful. Having Plecentino back at the same time as DeLo on the wings would really make a big difference. All in all they looked like a team missing key players and which hasn't brought in enough depth to cope.

youllneverwalkalone
05-28-2009, 11:13 AM
Regarding the match, I'm just glad Tuesday will mean something. :)

Regarding the crowd noise, a few thoughts:

-Vancouver (not the Southsiders by any means) is a quiet place. Always has, always will. BC Place, however, is quite loud. Don't know about the renos, but maybe we'll get a boost from the accoustics there?

-I never hear the Ultras on TV either. I see them jumping around, good TIFO and all that, but the noise doesn't come through. I don't know how many UM there are, but I suspect their numbers are only a few times that of the Southside. Anyway, 150-500 guys can't be expected to rock a whole stadium. Even our small ones. As K-Head pointed out, the Sportsnet mic'ing has something to do with it too, as I don't hear BMO on SN either. Even on the CBC broadcast, BMO doesn't seem as loud as the first year.

-If you watch Pompey at Fratton Park, a ground similar in size to most MLS stadia, there's actually a lot of fairly low decible crowd noise followed by billowing songs that are much louder than anything the MLS supporters put out. I think this is because these are the simple, popular favourites that everybody in the ground knows. This seems like a bit of a British phenomenon and the Southside defintely has a strong Briish influence that is different from Ultras, and maybe the TFC groups as well. We do well with the familiar songs, while new material often dies quite quickly -even in a group of 150 people. Hopefully some of our songs will spread across the ground in the next two years and we can be ready for BC Place. I think you all might be surprised with the result.

-Aside from spreading a few of these popular favourites, it's not our job to make the crowd sing or entertain the Ultras on TV. We're there to distract the opposition keeper. So a lot of the chants are one offs and don't necessarily have mass appeal. The Ultras can dance around all they want, but Jay Nolly still doesn't speak French. What the maudit bloke doesn't know can't hurt him. ;)

Krammerhead
05-28-2009, 11:28 AM
quote:I never hear the Ultras on TV either.

Exactly.

speedmonk42
05-28-2009, 11:34 AM
Just because there is a mic(s) there... doesn't mean they don't turn the levels up and down.

The stations probably don't want to get burned (again) by chants that might'go afoul'.

So things like the goal kicks, they know are safe and turn the levels up.

This happened to UMO2 as well I believe.

Rudi
05-28-2009, 11:39 AM
quote:Originally posted by Trident

Don't get hurt because I said you were quiet, and I hardly see what Rudi has to do there calling me an idiot for it. I wouldn't mind if it was someone from Vancouver, but you shouldn't stick your nose in our business.

I didn't call you an idiot, Krammerhead did. :D

I was simply correcting him when he used a plural term to refer to the number of people disrespecting the Southsiders in this thread, when in fact it was only you.

It was my business as well, as I didn't want to get lumped in with you.

Mr.Impact
05-28-2009, 11:47 AM
Montreal was awful, and the firing of LIMO looks like a terrible decision so far. This Club needs to work with a Sports Psychologist, cause I think they are still scarred from Santos Laguna. As far as Marc DeSantos is concerned, Doesn't seem like the type that inspires confidence, In fact If you hear him speak, he seems like he's on Vallium.

As far as the Whitecaps are concerned, was really impressed by their Back 4. Solid physical play, and fast. Gbeke is a Douche, for calling out is teammates more then onece, and then misses a Penalty kick. That type of attitude will lead to his demise.

Krammerhead
05-28-2009, 11:54 AM
quote:Originally posted by speedmonk42

Just because there is a mic(s) there... doesn't mean they don't turn the levels up and down.

The stations probably don't want to get burned (again) by chants that might'go afoul'.

So things like the goal kicks, they know are safe and turn the levels up.

This happened to UMO2 as well I believe.


Like I mentioned, we were joking with the sportsnet technician when he started setting up the microphone in front of us. He told us it was no problem because it was a directional microphone and wouldn't pick us up. Two minutes after he set it up he came quickly back saying "it's obviously not directional enough" and moved it farther away.

It's all funny really. When watching the games on TV from Montreal, I don't hear the Ultras over there, but the last thing I think is that they don't make noise or that they are very quiet, and neither does anyone over here. It's obvious they are because I doubt they are a group of mimes. Hence we don't make comments about how loud or noisy they are.

Anyway, as supporters we sing and make noise so that the players can hear us. They did and showed their appreciation at the end of the game. We are not singing to please people watching at home on TV or to impress other supporters groups.

BrennanFan
05-28-2009, 12:09 PM
"you're **** and you know you are" came across crystal clear.

"we love you" was loud enough as well.

Free kick
05-28-2009, 12:37 PM
quote:Originally posted by BrennanFan

"you're **** and you know you are" came across crystal clear.

"we love you" was loud enough as well.



I thought I heard all of the chants and songs fairly clear while watching the broadcast. I know because I made of point of taking note of the ones that I was most familar with.

But beyond the crowd noise or lack thereof. What most struck me was the optics of the event on the TV. Its just something that never really stood out as much in the past but now makes you realise that a swangard stadium is really a hinderance to the progress and growth of the game. i cant see how you can promote the game and expand the fan base when when the images of one of your primary event is that of a facility with:

1) Fans/spectators standing along the sidelines

2) The TV camera facing grandstands that look like beer tents stretched entirely accross the sidelines

3) Low camera positions and resulting vantage point for TV viewers.


Yet this event was shown on Cnd TV just barely an hour and a half after the biggest event on the Euro calendar was aired. The starkness of the contrast between the presentation and product was not a stong selling point for the game and the V-Cup. The Caps need a new or different facility badly. Really badly.

Rudi
05-28-2009, 01:25 PM
quote:Originally posted by Free kick

The Caps need a new or different facility badly. Really badly.

They'll have one in two years.

Free kick
05-28-2009, 01:33 PM
quote:Originally posted by Rudi


quote:Originally posted by Free kick

The Caps need a new or different facility badly. Really badly.

They'll have one in two years.


It cant come soon enough. I recall catching some of those early round FA Cup matches when i was still a subcribers to Fox Sportsworld Canada. As far as the bush league factor, the optics of last nights game were on par or worst than that of those conference or slightly above conference level clubs.

youllneverwalkalone
05-28-2009, 01:35 PM
^^You only have 1.5 years to come to Swangard, then. :) If my math is correct, six titles have either been won there or by sides that played the season there. Fairly historic for Canadian soccer, I'd say.

And it's actually a nice little ground. I'm not sure what you expect, but being in Central Park, with a view of the mountains from the Southside and a grass pitch with a short walk to the beer tent and port-a-loo is not too shabby in my opinion.

We do need something bigger and better, but I'll definitely miss it all the same.

Johnnie Monster
05-28-2009, 01:46 PM
Word round the campfire is that the Southsiders are getting a terrace at BC Place with a bar right behind it. God help my liver.

Krammerhead
05-28-2009, 01:47 PM
quote:Originally posted by Free kick


quote:Originally posted by BrennanFan

"you're **** and you know you are" came across crystal clear.

"we love you" was loud enough as well.



I thought I heard all of the chants and songs fairly clear while watching the broadcast. I know because I made of point of taking note of the ones that I was most familar with.

But beyond the crowd noise or lack thereof. What most struck me was the optics of the event on the TV. Its just something that never really stood out as much in the past but now makes you realise that a swangard stadium is really a hinderance to the progress and growth of the game. i cant see how you can promote the game and expand the fan base when when the images of one of your primary event is that of a facility with:

1) Fans/spectators standing along the sidelines

2) The TV camera facing grandstands that look like beer tents stretched entirely accross the sidelines

3) Low camera positions and resulting vantage point for TV viewers.


Yet this event was shown on Cnd TV just barely an hour and a half after the biggest event on the Euro calendar was aired. The starkness of the contrast between the presentation and product was not a stong selling point for the game and the V-Cup. The Caps need a new or different facility badly. Really badly.




All very good points. Speaking of the low camera angle, they do have a place on the roof for a camera set up, I don't know why they don't use it.

superbrad
05-28-2009, 02:14 PM
Per my insider at the game...

"Interesting that the post-game discussion has moved to more about crowd noise than the game itself.

The southsiders did a good job keeping the noise level up, but then I sit near them (and also close to the beer gardens). Having said that, could still hear them singing from the stadium 5 minutes into my walk to skytrain. I believe this probably didn’t carry too well on tv. Having said that, the rest of the stadium was pretty quiet.

I don’t think Swangard is exactly a noise trap – nor does it hold many people. Can hardly wait for the move."

Trident
05-28-2009, 02:36 PM
quote:Originally posted by Free kick


quote:Originally posted by BrennanFan

"you're **** and you know you are" came across crystal clear.

"we love you" was loud enough as well.



I thought I heard all of the chants and songs fairly clear while watching the broadcast. I know because I made of point of taking note of the ones that I was most familar with.

But beyond the crowd noise or lack thereof. What most struck me was the optics of the event on the TV. Its just something that never really stood out as much in the past but now makes you realise that a swangard stadium is really a hinderance to the progress and growth of the game. i cant see how you can promote the game and expand the fan base when when the images of one of your primary event is that of a facility with:

1) Fans/spectators standing along the sidelines

2) The TV camera facing grandstands that look like beer tents stretched entirely accross the sidelines

3) Low camera positions and resulting vantage point for TV viewers.


Yet this event was shown on Cnd TV just barely an hour and a half after the biggest event on the Euro calendar was aired. The starkness of the contrast between the presentation and product was not a stong selling point for the game and the V-Cup. The Caps need a new or different facility badly. Really badly.




I couldn't believe there were people doing cartwheels in the corner of one stadium...

And I've been watching every montreal game on TV, and it's very loud, and not near as quiet as you guys say we are. When I was listening to the CKAC broadcast of the vancouver game, some of the words were lost among the songs.

Regardless, you guys better be louder in the qualifications for the group stage.

Jeffery S.
05-28-2009, 02:59 PM
It seems like basic sound technology is only understood on the West coast. How can we assist you back east in your acoustic illiteracy? HOW ABOUT THIS?

Trident
05-28-2009, 03:48 PM
quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S.

It seems like basic sound technology is only understood on the West coast. How can we assist you back east in your acoustic illiteracy? HOW ABOUT THIS?


[?]

I don't know what you're referencing? The fact they took the mic off you? It happens to us and we're still loud...

Leave it alone Jeffrey, why not talk about the game?

----------------

I hope gage's goal spurs the impact to stop mistreating our youth.

One young player who was great with us, Uwimana, is playing in the LSEQ! Provinical league, after playing internationally! Sadly, he isnt the only amazing youngster we have wasting away in some terrible league.

Duane Rollins
05-28-2009, 04:02 PM
quote:Originally posted by Trident

Regardless, you guys better be louder in the qualifications for the group stage.


Maybe they should beat the undefeated team first to get there...

Ed
05-28-2009, 04:03 PM
I watched Gage as much as possible and he hardly put a foot wrong all game. Missed that header of course but was excellent otherwise.

ottawaguy2009
05-28-2009, 04:31 PM
quote:Originally posted by Mr.Impact

Montreal was awful, and the firing of LIMO looks like a terrible decision so far. This Club needs to work with a Sports Psychologist, cause I think they are still scarred from Santos Laguna. As far as Marc DeSantos is concerned, Doesn't seem like the type that inspires confidence, In fact If you hear him speak, he seems like he's on Vallium.

As far as the Whitecaps are concerned, was really impressed by their Back 4. Solid physical play, and fast. Gbeke is a Douche, for calling out is teammates more then onece, and then misses a Penalty kick. That type of attitude will lead to his demise.


^Could not agree more. By the 15th minute I was shouting at TT to get that guy off the field.

Also props to Ethan Gage as Ed mentioned. He played a strong game. He was just a little too excited on that header opportunity. Next time.

Grizzly
05-28-2009, 04:37 PM
About the only positive I can take from this game is that I was impressed with Pa Amadou Gai when he came in (it was his debut with the first team). It remains to be seen whether he can finish or not but he had a couple of nice chances in the short time he played. If he can finish he could be an upgrade on Brown.

Montreal needs to start bringing in higher quality players. We have been bringing in too many players who just give us depth but don't improve the team. Our philosophy needs to be to bring in players who can threaten our starters position on the team as opposed to guys who are merely adequate cover when these starters are injured. The USL has improved faster than we have.

We also need to start an academy, a reserve team is not enough. Developing soccer in Quebec is one of the Impact's mandates and one of the reasons we are a non-profit corporation. As such it is incomprehensible why an acedemy wasn't started years ago. It is a huge advantage that Vancouver has that they can call on their academy players and not only as depth players but as strong starters.

Cheeta
05-28-2009, 04:39 PM
quote:Originally posted by Johnnie Monster

Word round the campfire is that the Southsiders are getting a terrace at BC Place with a bar right behind it. God help my liver.


Oh...

my...

gawd....

When's the stadium ready? (http://www.workopolis.com/work.aspx?action=Transfer&View=Content/JobSeeker/CanadaJobs/VancouverJobsView&lang=EN)

Grizzly
05-28-2009, 04:41 PM
It was a crazy move by TT (in an otherwise well coached game) to have Gbeke take the penalty. I told the guy sitting next to me at Frappe that he wasn't going to score before he shot. Gbeke is the type of striker who can head the ball in or score from a strange position but put him alone in front of the keeper and he rarely scores (Why do we have so many Canadian players like this?) I am surprised TT hasn't noticed this by now and was very surprised Nash didn't take it.

Speaking of the penalty, despite stopping it Jordan looked very shaky the whole night. It almost seems as if his confidence is shot. That yellow card play was terrible (one foot away from being a penalty and a red card) and he misjudged and mishandled balls all night.

I also have to agree that while Swangard might be a quaint little stadium to visit in person, it looks terrible and very amateur on tv.

superbrad
05-28-2009, 05:26 PM
quote:Originally posted by Grizzly

It was a crazy move by TT (in an otherwise well coached game) to have Gbeke take the penalty. I told the guy sitting next to me at Frappe that he wasn't going to score before he shot. Gbeke is the type of striker who can head the ball in or score from a strange position but put him alone in front of the keeper and he rarely scores (Why do we have so many Canadian players like this?) I am surprised TT hasn't noticed this by now and was very surprised Nash didn't take it.

Speaking of the penalty, despite stopping it Jordan looked very shaky the whole night. It almost seems as if his confidence is shot. That yellow card play was terrible (one foot away from being a penalty and a red card) and he misjudged and mishandled balls all night.

I also have to agree that while Swangard might be a quaint little stadium to visit in person, it looks terrible and very amateur on tv.


On television - it almost looked as Gbeke was demanding to take the shot...he appeared to tap his chest as if to say "I'm taking it".....I was wondering about that myself.

Krammerhead
05-28-2009, 05:27 PM
quote:Originally posted by Trident


quote:Originally posted by Free kick


quote:Originally posted by BrennanFan

"you're **** and you know you are" came across crystal clear.

"we love you" was loud enough as well.



I thought I heard all of the chants and songs fairly clear while watching the broadcast. I know because I made of point of taking note of the ones that I was most familar with.

But beyond the crowd noise or lack thereof. What most struck me was the optics of the event on the TV. Its just something that never really stood out as much in the past but now makes you realise that a swangard stadium is really a hinderance to the progress and growth of the game. i cant see how you can promote the game and expand the fan base when when the images of one of your primary event is that of a facility with:

1) Fans/spectators standing along the sidelines

2) The TV camera facing grandstands that look like beer tents stretched entirely accross the sidelines

3) Low camera positions and resulting vantage point for TV viewers.


Yet this event was shown on Cnd TV just barely an hour and a half after the biggest event on the Euro calendar was aired. The starkness of the contrast between the presentation and product was not a stong selling point for the game and the V-Cup. The Caps need a new or different facility badly. Really badly.




I couldn't believe there were people doing cartwheels in the corner of one stadium...

And I've been watching every montreal game on TV, and it's very loud, and not near as quiet as you guys say we are. When I was listening to the CKAC broadcast of the vancouver game, some of the words were lost among the songs.


I'm going to take the exact same position as you do and reflect it back. I can't hear you guys while watching your games on TV so I'm going to say you guys don't make any noise. Never mind that you are there and say you make a lot of noise, I can't hear it so obviously you guys are quiet.

....and when a tree falls in the forest and I'm not there to hear it, it also makes no noise.

lazlo_80
05-28-2009, 08:04 PM
Wasn't it Gbeke too who stood over Ethan Gage yelling at him when he missed the header too? Anyone else see that?

Winnipeg Fury
05-28-2009, 08:05 PM
quote:Originally posted by lazlo_80

Wasn't it Gbeke too who stood over Ethan Gage yelling at him when he missed the header too? Anyone else see that?


Yes, that was him.

SthMelbRed
05-28-2009, 08:22 PM
I didn't watch the match so I cannot comment on any of the other discussion. I'd just like to express my relief that the match next Tuesday will be of great importance, as I'm arriving home on Monday and will be going to the game with the boys. I'm probably also going to the league match against Montreal on the Sunday, but that one will be a quiet affair, as I'll be bringing my niece and nephew. Haven't been to a 'Caps game in four years.

Keano
05-28-2009, 09:09 PM
A) Gbeke acted like a douche
B) All this loudness nonsense is a little sad.

Trident
05-29-2009, 04:05 PM
quote:Originally posted by Krammerhead


quote:Originally posted by Trident


quote:Originally posted by Free kick


quote:Originally posted by BrennanFan

"you're **** and you know you are" came across crystal clear.

"we love you" was loud enough as well.



I thought I heard all of the chants and songs fairly clear while watching the broadcast. I know because I made of point of taking note of the ones that I was most familar with.

But beyond the crowd noise or lack thereof. What most struck me was the optics of the event on the TV. Its just something that never really stood out as much in the past but now makes you realise that a swangard stadium is really a hinderance to the progress and growth of the game. i cant see how you can promote the game and expand the fan base when when the images of one of your primary event is that of a facility with:

1) Fans/spectators standing along the sidelines

2) The TV camera facing grandstands that look like beer tents stretched entirely accross the sidelines

3) Low camera positions and resulting vantage point for TV viewers.


Yet this event was shown on Cnd TV just barely an hour and a half after the biggest event on the Euro calendar was aired. The starkness of the contrast between the presentation and product was not a stong selling point for the game and the V-Cup. The Caps need a new or different facility badly. Really badly.




I couldn't believe there were people doing cartwheels in the corner of one stadium...

And I've been watching every montreal game on TV, and it's very loud, and not near as quiet as you guys say we are. When I was listening to the CKAC broadcast of the vancouver game, some of the words were lost among the songs.


I'm going to take the exact same position as you do and reflect it back. I can't hear you guys while watching your games on TV so I'm going to say you guys don't make any noise. Never mind that you are there and say you make a lot of noise, I can't hear it so obviously you guys are quiet.

....and when a tree falls in the forest and I'm not there to hear it, it also makes no noise.


I know I said I didn't want to sidetrack this with the quietness of your stadium but i just have to point this out:



quote:Originally posted by Trident

And I've been watching every montreal game on TV, and it's very loud, and not near as quiet as you guys say we are. When I was listening to the CKAC broadcast of the vancouver game, some of the words were lost among the songs.


in other words: I wasn't there.

kyam
05-31-2009, 06:48 PM
quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S.

It seems like basic sound technology is only understood on the West coast. How can we assist you back east in your acoustic illiteracy? HOW ABOUT THIS?


Great game by the Caps!

However, I agree with Trident and the others, mic or not, that was a quiet crowd. It might be loud compared to PCSL matches, but Vancouver fans haven't been to Saputo or BMO Field either, so their arguments are fruitless.

However, they did a camera spin around to where the commentators box was, and I saw a ton of empty seats at Swangard. Was the stadium even sold out, or did people who had tickets not show up?

It may have been louder if the place was packed, but with only 5000 people, I don't expect to hear much on TV.

Either way, BMO Field fans in the South-side, where the Red Patch Boys are perhaps the loudest fans in Canadian Club Soccer... yet, South-siders DO NOT have a mic either!

(And this is speaking from Experience, having attended regular season games at Swangard, BMO Field and Saputo Stadium)

Regardless, Dominant effort by the Caps. TFC should take note. With or without Martin Nash, the Caps are a worthy opponent.

Scottie
06-01-2009, 02:03 AM
quote:Originally posted by kyam

However, I agree with Trident and the others, mic or not, that was a quiet crowd. It might be loud compared to PCSL matches, but Vancouver fans haven't been to Saputo or BMO Field either, so their arguments are fruitless.

Actually, you don't know what you're talking about. There was (and always is) a contingent of well-travelled voyageurs in the southside on wednesday, myself included. There was a lot of western representation at each of canada's [u]4</u> wcq home matches last year, which can't be said for the easterners btw.

Thanks to the southsiders- my first game at swangard was a great experience! I can't believe how hard it is to balance on those stands during the rowdier chants, and I don't think I got through one round of "we like to wank to mattandlaurie.com" without laughing uncontrollably. Great times.

Grizzly
06-01-2009, 02:58 AM
I think the supporter's groups of all three teams have very different styles. It is kind of pointless to argue who is best, louder, more passionate, etc. because everyone is going to prefer their own group and dislike the other groups.

Grizzly
06-01-2009, 03:04 AM
quote:Originally posted by Scottie


quote:Originally posted by kyam

However, I agree with Trident and the others, mic or not, that was a quiet crowd. It might be loud compared to PCSL matches, but Vancouver fans haven't been to Saputo or BMO Field either, so their arguments are fruitless.

Actually, you don't know what you're talking about. There was (and always is) a contingent of well-travelled voyageurs in the southside on wednesday, myself included. There was a lot of western representation at each of canada's [u]4</u> wcq home matches last year, which can't be said for the easterners btw.

Thanks to the southsiders- my first game at swangard was a great experience! I can't believe how hard it is to balance on those stands during the rowdier chants, and I don't think I got through one round of "we like to wank to mattandlaurie.com" without laughing uncontrollably. Great times.


I have respect for the majority of members of the Southsiders many whom I have met at Canada games and also at Impact games when they travelled with the team. A few of them even watched an Impact game against an American team with UM in the kop and supported the Impact. However, it seems to me that the Southsiders occasionally make some poor choices about what to sing. I personally find singing, "we like to wank to mattandlaurie.com" to be offensive, perverted and in poor taste. This is a website made by his Jordan and his wife with mostly pictures of them and their children. In my opinion, take the piss out of the keeper as much as you want but leave his wife and children out of it.

Trident
06-01-2009, 05:21 AM
quote:Originally posted by Grizzly


quote:Originally posted by Scottie


quote:Originally posted by kyam

However, I agree with Trident and the others, mic or not, that was a quiet crowd. It might be loud compared to PCSL matches, but Vancouver fans haven't been to Saputo or BMO Field either, so their arguments are fruitless.

Actually, you don't know what you're talking about. There was (and always is) a contingent of well-travelled voyageurs in the southside on wednesday, myself included. There was a lot of western representation at each of canada's [u]4</u> wcq home matches last year, which can't be said for the easterners btw.

Thanks to the southsiders- my first game at swangard was a great experience! I can't believe how hard it is to balance on those stands during the rowdier chants, and I don't think I got through one round of "we like to wank to mattandlaurie.com" without laughing uncontrollably. Great times.


I have respect for the majority of members of the Southsiders many whom I have met at Canada games and also at Impact games when they travelled with the team. A few of them even watched an Impact game against an American team with UM in the kop and supported the Impact. However, it seems to me that the Southsiders occasionally make some poor choices about what to sing. I personally find singing, "we like to wank to mattandlaurie.com" to be offensive, perverted and in poor taste. This is a website made by his Jordan and his wife with mostly pictures of them and their children. In my opinion, take the piss out of the keeper as much as you want but leave his wife and children out of it.


Hahaha, did they actually sing that during the match?

Jeffery S.
06-01-2009, 06:42 AM
In the Southside you sing whatever the funny guys making up the chants decide is right to sing at any given time. There is no other ethical consideration involved.

If you want to change things go, and make up something funnier that folks will go along with.

My only complaint about the Southside is not loudness, it is sustainability. More on that later.

Trident
06-01-2009, 02:33 PM
quote:Originally posted by Scottie

Actually, you don't know what you're talking about. There was (and always is) a contingent of well-travelled voyageurs in the southside on wednesday, myself included. There was a lot of western representation at each of canada's [u]4</u> wcq home matches last year, which can't be said for the easterners btw.


Oh, travelling long distances means you must be loud?

In that case, Vancouver must have the loudest fans in canada.

;)

Jeffery S.
06-01-2009, 02:41 PM
quote:Originally posted by Trident


quote:Originally posted by Scottie

Actually, you don't know what you're talking about. There was (and always is) a contingent of well-travelled voyageurs in the southside on wednesday, myself included. There was a lot of western representation at each of canada's [u]4</u> wcq home matches last year, which can't be said for the easterners btw.


Oh, travelling long distances means you must be loud?

In that case, Vancouver must have the loudest fans in canada.

;)


And Montreal must have the deafest, n'est pas?

Trillium
06-01-2009, 06:42 PM
quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S.



My only complaint about the Southside is not loudness, it is sustainability. More on that later.
Wait a minute are you saying the dont recycle chants or use green ones ? Surely BC must have some commission to examine sustanabilty issues ?

Oh wait maybe read that wrong are you saying the Southsiders cant sustain a bottom end for ninety minutes when they chant ?

Scottie
06-01-2009, 06:54 PM
quote:Originally posted by Trident


quote:Originally posted by Scottie

Actually, you don't know what you're talking about. There was (and always is) a contingent of well-travelled voyageurs in the southside on wednesday, myself included. There was a lot of western representation at each of canada's [u]4</u> wcq home matches last year, which can't be said for the easterners btw.


Oh, travelling long distances means you must be loud?

In that case, Vancouver must have the loudest fans in canada.

;)

Actually, that was more in response to the "vancouver fans haven't been to BMO or Saputo so their arguments are fruitless" comment.

Krammerhead
06-01-2009, 07:03 PM
You know, I watched the Rochester vs Montreal game on USL live on Saturday. I had the sound off so heard nothing. So I have to assume that since I couldn't hear anything that neither the Montreal fans nor the Rhinos fans make any noise at all, using the same logic that some people in this thread are.

Jeffery S.
06-02-2009, 04:06 AM
quote:Originally posted by Krammerhead

You know, I watched the Rochester vs Montreal game on USL live on Saturday. I had the sound off so heard nothing. So I have to assume that since I couldn't hear anything that neither the Montreal fans nor the Rhinos fans make any noise at all, using the same logic that some people in this thread are.


Impeccably argued. According to these guys Eskimos fans are the quietest in Canada because Nanook of the North was a silent movie.

SteveBeau
06-02-2009, 12:05 PM
quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S.


quote:Originally posted by Krammerhead

You know, I watched the Rochester vs Montreal game on USL live on Saturday. I had the sound off so heard nothing. So I have to assume that since I couldn't hear anything that neither the Montreal fans nor the Rhinos fans make any noise at all, using the same logic that some people in this thread are.


Impeccably argued. According to these guys Eskimos fans are the quietest in Canada because Nanook of the North was a silent movie.


Days later AND STILL TALKING about this... (rolls eyes)

Trident
06-02-2009, 01:38 PM
quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S.


quote:Originally posted by Krammerhead

You know, I watched the Rochester vs Montreal game on USL live on Saturday. I had the sound off so heard nothing. So I have to assume that since I couldn't hear anything that neither the Montreal fans nor the Rhinos fans make any noise at all, using the same logic that some people in this thread are.


Impeccably argued. According to these guys Eskimos fans are the quietest in Canada because Nanook of the North was a silent movie.



According to this thread derail, I should be living in Edmonton and be playing gridiron under an outdated and offensive name.

;)

Give up westerners, I said you guys were quiet, others said you were quiet, so maybe that means you were quiet?

Either way, just saying we're idiots and using stupid arguments wont make us think otherwise.

loyola
06-02-2009, 01:46 PM
quote:Originally posted by Trident


quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S.


quote:Originally posted by Krammerhead

You know, I watched the Rochester vs Montreal game on USL live on Saturday. I had the sound off so heard nothing. So I have to assume that since I couldn't hear anything that neither the Montreal fans nor the Rhinos fans make any noise at all, using the same logic that some people in this thread are.


Impeccably argued. According to these guys Eskimos fans are the quietest in Canada because Nanook of the North was a silent movie.




Give up westerners, I said you guys were quiet, others said you were quiet, so maybe that means you were quiet?




I said you're a troll, others have said you're a troll, so maybe you are a troll?

Rudi
06-02-2009, 01:50 PM
quote:Originally posted by loyola


quote:Originally posted by Trident


quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S.


quote:Originally posted by Krammerhead

You know, I watched the Rochester vs Montreal game on USL live on Saturday. I had the sound off so heard nothing. So I have to assume that since I couldn't hear anything that neither the Montreal fans nor the Rhinos fans make any noise at all, using the same logic that some people in this thread are.


Impeccably argued. According to these guys Eskimos fans are the quietest in Canada because Nanook of the North was a silent movie.




Give up westerners, I said you guys were quiet, others said you were quiet, so maybe that means you were quiet?




I said you're a troll, others have said you're a troll, so maybe you are a troll?

:D

Trident
06-03-2009, 05:17 AM
quote:Originally posted by loyola


quote:Originally posted by Trident


quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S.


quote:Originally posted by Krammerhead

You know, I watched the Rochester vs Montreal game on USL live on Saturday. I had the sound off so heard nothing. So I have to assume that since I couldn't hear anything that neither the Montreal fans nor the Rhinos fans make any noise at all, using the same logic that some people in this thread are.


Impeccably argued. According to these guys Eskimos fans are the quietest in Canada because Nanook of the North was a silent movie.




Give up westerners, I said you guys were quiet, others said you were quiet, so maybe that means you were quiet?




I said you're a troll, others have said you're a troll, so maybe you are a troll?


Maybe I am then. Good thing I don't have to deal with it.

I say some things people don't like, but that's too bad. I've always just been stating my opinions, I dont care who likes them.

Also, trolls sign up for other peoples forums just to cause ****.

Everything I have said, I have believed, so I'm not a troll, just unpopular.

[8D]