CCL: Mtl Impact-CD Olimpia (R)

[Kurosawa]

Weather forecast for tonight.

4 celsius with 80% chance of light rain, winds from the NE at 30km per hour.

[Keano]

More than likely to turn to snow apparently according to some reports... Honduran hell in other words [}:)]

[mtl-supporter23]

There are mixed report that temperature will drop to below 0 and possibility of snow. Right now its pouring rain and a little under 10 degrees.

Either way advantage- Montreal

However for some players on Montreal this will also be their first time playing in such conditions. Gonna be a thriller !!!!

[youllneverwalkalone]

If anybody out here knows or cares, I wonder if game will be per the CBC schedule and replay at 9PM PST, or replay at 12AM? The last match was listed at 9PM, but didn't play till midnight.

F-ucking useless CBC. Though I do love this portal for observing the Canadian psychotic fear of manifest destiny. I was watching Bon Cop, Bad Cop the other day and they kept showing adds for this crap show called "The Border" whose premise is a small Canadian town "voting" to become part of the USA. F-uck me.

Good luck Ultras!

[Keano]

quote:Originally posted by youllneverwalkalone

If anybody out here knows or cares, I wonder if game will be per the CBC schedule and replay at 9PM PST, or replay at 12AM? The last match was listed at 9PM, but didn't play till midnight.

F-ucking useless CBC. Though I do love this portal for observing the Canadian psychotic fear of manifest destiny. I was watching Bon Cop, Bad Cop the other day and they kept showing adds for this crap show called "The Border" whose premise is a small Canadian town "voting" to become part of the USA. F-uck me.

Good luck Ultras!


8 on BOLD and the website, 12 AM on CBC regular.

The border is one of the saddest CBC shows in a while and that's saying something.

[JFC]

Who's the referee?

The honorable M.Benito Archundia

[loyola]

quote:Originally posted by JFC

Who's the referee?

The honorable M.Benito Archundia


A team from Canada vs a team from Honduras...be scare!

[Keano]

quote:Originally posted by JFC

Who's the referee?

The honorable M.Benito Archundia


Where did you find that>???

[Richard]

Will be interesting to see how the grass at Saputo Stadium stands up to the game today or if we'll see it tearing up in great swathes again.

[the biologist]

Lunch break for me now, and I checked the forecast update at 2 pm on the MeteoMedia site and it goes as follows:

5°C - 80 % Light rain (1-3 mm) - NE 40 km/h winds - 93% humidity

So basically the same as this morning according to Kurosawa's post.

[JamboAl]

quote:Originally posted by Keano


quote:Originally posted by JFC

Who's the referee?

The honorable M.Benito Archundia


Where did you find that>???


I saw that too but in one of the Honduran newspapers on-line: http://www.tiempo.hn/.

And the excerpt from it:

Partido: Montreal Impact vrs Olimpia

Hora: 6 p.m.

Escenario: Estadio Saputo

Ciudad: Montreal, Canadá

Árbitros: Benito Archundia al centro; Héctor Delgadillo y Marvin Torrentera, todos mexicanos.

Motivo: Quinta fecha de la primera fase de la Liga de Campeones de Concacaf 2008.

By the way, can all of you Impact Supporters please "warmly" welcome Senor Archundia for all of us long-suffering Vs?

[the biologist]

Found on Wikipedia about Benito Archundia:

He is regarded as one of the top referees in the world, having officiated in five matches during the 2006 FIFA World Cup, including one of the semi-finals. He was also the referee in the 2005 FIFA Club World Championship final match between São Paulo FC and Liverpool FC.

And, most interestingly:

Archundia made his first World Cup appearance in the 2006 FIFA World Cup and refereed a total of five matches, equaling the most number of matches by an individual referee (along with Argentina's Horacio Elizondo). His final game was the semi-final between Germany and Italy, and he was widely praised for an excellent job in controlling the match. In general he was the most lenient referee at the 2006 World Cup, giving out an average of only 3 cards per game (the lowest of any referee at the competition).

Are there really some people who agree with that BS ???

Lenient referee ? After the ridiculous call against Watson ? After the ridiculous "dangerous kick" call against Occean ? After the Hutchinson offside call ? After he called time right after the call ?

Well, that's just Wiki after all...

[loyola]

Well, Benito had an excellent WC in 2006. He was very good in that semifinal between Italy and Germany.

I would agree with what was said in his Wiki page. On the other side, his performance in 2004 in Edmonton was criminal at best...

[Keano]

quote:Originally posted by Richard

Will be interesting to see how the grass at Saputo Stadium stands up to the game today or if we'll see it tearing up in great swathes again.


Hasn't rained that much recently...

[the biologist]

I watched the game (that loyola's referring to) but I sincerely don't remember how well he fared in this one since at that time I wasn't interested in the sport as I'm now and I didn't notice he was THE referee for the 2004 game.

That being said, when they say that he "[gave] out an average of only 3 cards per game (the lowest of any referee at the competition)", how's that a great feat AUTOMATICALLY ??? I like Hockey, Soccer, Football, Baseball and a bit Basketball. And I can tell you that whatever the sport, I have seen so many "lenient" referees who were total crap, the tree by my window doesn't have enough leaves to count'em all. Whether a referee is "very lenient" or "totally not lenient" doesn't make him de facto a great one, neither a bad one.

So my point is primo, maybe he's lenient at times (understand "when he finds himself under all the spotlights of the world"), but sometimes he's not, and secundo, I could agree that he may have been one of the best in the 2006 WC, but I disagree with arguments like "because he was the most lenient" and "he only called 2 fouls per game" etc.

Time to go back to work now. See y'all tonight (those who unfortunately can't attend the game like me).

[Grizzly]

Oh ****. Archundia is the guy who always seems to be on the Honduran payroll. He was actually one of the best refs in the last WC which shows he is a corrupt ref not a incompetent one.

[Keano]

quote:Originally posted by Grizzly

Oh ****. Archundia is the guy who always seems to be on the Honduran payroll. He was actually one of the best refs in the last WC which shows he is a corrupt ref not a incompetent one.


Well close games are the dangerous ones for officiating and call me crazy but I feel this one won't be dangerous. I think Olimpia are going to be frozen stiff, pissed off about it, and playing a bit desperate so their already suspect defensive organization may be even more porous :D

That's my extremely objective and sober analysis. [:p]

[Keano]

I was worried a lot of Hondurans might come given that A) a lot of them came for the WCQ debacle and B) Olimpia is an old, successful Honduran brand that a lot of them support. However I really can't see any but the absolute hardcore Olimpia fans who are locally based actually turning up with the weather. Hope I'm right.

[Tuscan]

I was wondering about that too, as the Hondurans certainly turned out en force for the WCQ. Hopefully the cool temperature and possible rain will see the stadium filled with hardcore Ultras mostly, really give the boys a boost. Should be a good one tonight, going to have to catch the replay at midnight.

[Sam]

Hope the Montreal boys give Archundia hell tonight [}:)]

[MTLcanada514]

im getting my winter gear ready as we speak, gonna be double layering it tonite :P its a shame though that the weather is gonna make a lot of people stay home (most likely, this is Montreal and soccer were talking about) but it will prove who the real Impact fans are!

ALLEZ L'IMPACT!!!

[MTLcanada514]

p.s. anyone know where i can get one of those rain bags (sorry forget what theyre called) to throw over my jacket so as to minimize being soaked. I was hoping they would either sell them or hand em out at the stadium but im not putting my hopes up for that. thanks

[CanadasBest]

quote:Originally posted by MTLcanada514

p.s. anyone know where i can get one of those rain bags (sorry forget what theyre called) to throw over my jacket so as to minimize being soaked. I was hoping they would either sell them or hand em out at the stadium but im not putting my hopes up for that. thanks


Probably out of your way, but I bought some in Montreal before the Canada Honduras match. Downtown on St. Catherine's in the subterranean mall system there was a really tourist store. They were like $2.00 each or something.

[Richard]

quote:Originally posted by MTLcanada514

p.s. anyone know where i can get one of those rain bags (sorry forget what theyre called) to throw over my jacket so as to minimize being soaked. I was hoping they would either sell them or hand em out at the stadium but im not putting my hopes up for that. thanks
Cut a hole for your head in the bottom of a garbage bag :)
Cheapest most accessible solution by far.

[Trident]

quote:Originally posted by Richard


quote:Originally posted by MTLcanada514

p.s. anyone know where i can get one of those rain bags (sorry forget what theyre called) to throw over my jacket so as to minimize being soaked. I was hoping they would either sell them or hand em out at the stadium but im not putting my hopes up for that. thanks
Cut a hole for your head in the bottom of a garbage bag :)
Cheapest most accessible solution by far.



Did that at the home opener after I sold all my ponchos i bought at the dollar store.

1$ each
sold for 5$

[kirkbra]

I hope it starts snowing.That's home field advantage!

[Olgier]

Allez l'Impact!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is Huge!!!!!

[MTL_4_LIFE]

HERE WE GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Olgier]

Grats to the Ultras. We can hear them clearly.

[gator]

Is there no webcast?

[MTL_4_LIFE]

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/

[gator]

OK Thanks, got it! GO IMPACT!

[MTL_4_LIFE]

very nice chance. thought they had a goal.

[MTL_4_LIFE]

GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!! :D:D:D:D:D

[Olgier]

GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!

[gator]

That was awesome! Just what they needed!

[MTL_4_LIFE]

NOOO, sh*t that hurts. But i have to say it was a very nice finish.

[the biologist]

Men, I got home just in time to see both goals. Olimpia's goal really hurts, cause now they just need a second goal to have some hope to win the tiebreaker.

And Atlante is leading 1-0, so if both Olimpia and Atlante win, we're still not in the QF.

[MTL_4_LIFE]

If the Impact get a second goal early in the half. Montreal can control the game from their.

[gator]

Shame to give up that goal though, I thought if they defended well for about 10 minutes to start the half it would break the Hondurans!

[gator]

I know it's bad weather and all, but that looks like a poor crowd considering the Habs aren't playing! The supporters are in real good voice though!

[Richard]

Was just about to comment on the apparently sparse crowd myself - what's up Montreal?

[MTL_4_LIFE]

Its f**ken cold. And theres a lot of people in Montreal who don't care about the Impact.

[gator]

^ That's a shame! Looked like there could have been two penalties there! Not with this ref though, he's a prick!

[Richard]

Gather it is raining hard though.

[the biologist]

2-0 Atlante

[the biologist]

If the score keeps the same in both games, Olimpia is out of the QF cause Atlante holds the tiebreaker against Olimpia. So expect the Hondurans to play an all-out offense style of play 'til the end.

[MTL_4_LIFE]

Thank god.

[the biologist]

PLEASE KICK THE ASS OF THAT F*CKING REF !!!!!

[MTL_4_LIFE]

He called a foul

[the biologist]

Yeah, waaaaaaaay much deserved than the elbow Placentino got in the face...

[Richard]

Pitch seems to be holding up OK, some serious divets but still reasonably playable.

[Richard]

Ooooh!

[the biologist]

2-0 Atlante. Final score.

[MTL_4_LIFE]

there going to do it.!!!

[MTL_4_LIFE]

ITS OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D:D[:D}

[Richard]

Well done Montreal Impact, they had a job to do and they got it done.

[the biologist]

QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here we are !!!!

[Lord Bob]

Congratulations to every Montreal Impact fan for giving Canadians something to be proud of on the pitch this year.

[gator]

GREAT! I've really enjoyed watching this team! Myself and Mr. Gator will be coming to Montreal in February! Congrats Impact!

[MTL_4_LIFE]

^^^^ NICE!

[gator]

I had visions of a great big crowd at the Big Owe for the QF, now I'm not so sure! Well done for the hardcore supporters though!

[Olgier]

WE MADE IT.......

OMFG!!!!!!

I STILL CANT BELIEVE THIS!!!!!


SEE YA TORONTO!!!!!

[gator]

It's got nothing to do with Toronto! Theses guys are something to be proud of, Toronto wasn't good enough! All Canada is behind the Impact!

[koivu]

Great accomplishment for the Impact...looking forward to seeing how they get on the rest of the way.

[Olgier]

quote:Originally posted by gator

It's got nothing to do with Toronto! Theses guys are something to be proud of, Toronto wasn't good enough! All Canada is behind the Impact!


Its just a little bit of teasing to my friends who are fans of TFC.

[gator]

^ Nothing wrong with that, I know I'm a Habs fan in Ontario, there's a good rivalry between the cities, and due to the Voyageurs Cup another chapter has been added!

[loyola]

I came back home and watched the final 10 min. Tough conditions out there. Congrats to the Impact for this excellent result!!!

It will be interesting to see where they gonna play that February or March game in MTL.

I'm very impress with MTL, they are a nice story for canadian soccer fans!

[hamiltonfan]

wow. great great stuff. so how are the quater finals going to be worked out??

[tmcmurph]

Well done Montreal. Wish it was my Caps but we got the USL-1 championship and you guys are still rocking the CL. Keep it rolling all the way to Club World Cup!

[the biologist]

About the Big O for the game in february, JL stated on CKAC Sports 730 AM this morning: "C'est très très probable qu'on joue au Stade Olympique. On n'a pas d'autres solutions. Nous devons tout faire pour jouer là."

In english: "It's very, very probable that we're gonna play at the Big O. We don't have any other solutions. We must do everything we can in order to play there."

I think they're gonna find a way to push back the beginning of the roof-changing process.

[MTLcanada514]

YESSSSSSS WHATA GAME! Credit to the ultras who were in good voice on again, those last 20 mins or so were really intense!!! Props to the people who weren't afraid of getting a little wet or cold. Now as i read on tsn.ca the questions begin...where to play, where to train with such a big layoff, which players will/won't be back (hopefully not many won't), but that makes for an interesting 4 months coming up.

MONTREAL ALLEZZZ ALLEZZZZZ!!!

[tmcmurph]

quote:Originally posted by MTLcanada514

YESSSSSSS WHATA GAME! Credit to the ultras who were in good voice on again, those last 20 mins or so were really intense!!! Props to the people who weren't afraid of getting a little wet or cold. Now as i read on tsn.ca the questions begin...where to play, where to train with such a big layoff, which players will/won't be back (hopefully not many won't), but that makes for an interesting 4 months coming up.

MONTREAL ALLEZZZ ALLEZZZZZ!!!


Ah to have such problems to deal with! I can think of 2 other teams in Canada that would love to have those issues to deal with.

Keep it going guys. This will be interesting to see how far the Impact can go. Being the first they will set the bar very high for those who follow in the years to come.

[Time_for_2014]

An historic day...

[Cheeta]

1st half left a lot to be desired. Very tepid, and more than a bit disjointed by the Impact but the 2nd half just flew by. What a first few minutes. Not Montreal's best game of the tourney by a long shot but a solid enough effort to get the job done.

Didn't think the crowd was that bad actually, especially considering the weather. 5,000 ish?

Can't help but feel the semi's might be as far as the Impact go though. Late winter venue isn't the only issue facing those lads. That's a loooong time between competitive matches to keep the rust off.

[Kurosawa]

Oh my god, that Bud at Pub 99 after the game was the best bear ever and I don't know if they showed the players celebrating with the kop after the game but it was awesome.

Can't wait for a game in february at the Big O.

[the biologist]

On the TSN site, it's not even on the main page !!! Surprised ? Certainly not coming from the Toronto Sports Network. Frustrated ? You bet !!! But I must admit there are some BREAKING NEWS in there. Yeah, really. Like, did you know that "Cowboys' Romo says Johnson will start against Tampa", "Jyles gets the call for Riders against Edmonton", "Senators break up tandem of Heatley and Spezza", "Report: Avery in heated confrontation with TV host" and more interestingly that "Curlin draws No. 9 post, favourite at Breeders' Cup Classic" (horse racing ?????????) ?

I've send a talkback for this news saying:

"Please TSN, put this news on the home page of your site ! Show us you care at least a little about Canadian soccer, not to say soccer at all. It's history the Impact made today, so they deserve to be WELL supported by our media here in Canada and to be cheered by every Canadian who want soccer to be successful in this country."

Ho much you bet it ain't gonna be posted at all !!! Well, I know them too much to have had an ounce of a tought it could work, but still, in the frenzy I find myself with the win...

Edit

On Sportsnet.ca, it's merely in the list of news to the right. On their soccer home page, again no mention of it besides the list of news. Their main news is "TFC hope to end with a victory" ?!?!?. The game will be played ONLY SATURDAY !!! HEY, WE'RE TUESDAY AND THE IMPACT WON !!! Why don't they make different home pages depending of your region ? They even ask us which "Sportsnet region" we're in at the top of the page, so what's the matter with them ?

IT'S SO FRUSTRATING THAT THE MEDIA ARE SO TORONTO-CENTRIC !!!

When it's not about TFC, it's about "how the Leafs could rebuild ?", "will the Jays finish 3rd, 4th or 5th this year ?", "will the Raptors finally progress ?", etc.

[Jeffery S.]

Congrats Impact.

What does this mean, from the story on the USL site:
"The quarterfinal round, a home-and-away aggregate-goal series, will take place from February 24 to March 5. A random draw will determine the four match-ups, but the date for that has yet to be announced."

Does "random draw" mean there are no seedings, no first place vs. 2nd place, no home advantage for the former?

[SteveBeau]

quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S.

Congrats Impact.

What does this mean, from the story on the USL site:
"The quarterfinal round, a home-and-away aggregate-goal series, will take place from February 24 to March 5. A random draw will determine the four match-ups, but the date for that has yet to be announced."

Does "random draw" mean there are no seedings, no first place vs. 2nd place, no home advantage for the former?


I'm not sure about the home advantage, but it will be a 1st place team facing a 2nd place team in the quarter finals.

[Jeffery S.]

quote:Originally posted by SteveBeau


quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S.

Congrats Impact.

What does this mean, from the story on the USL site:
"The quarterfinal round, a home-and-away aggregate-goal series, will take place from February 24 to March 5. A random draw will determine the four match-ups, but the date for that has yet to be announced."

Does "random draw" mean there are no seedings, no first place vs. 2nd place, no home advantage for the former?


I'm not sure about the home advantage, but it will be a 1st place team facing a 2nd place team in the quarter finals.


All I wanted to know. Meaning the final game does count for Impact, they draw at least and take first place. The advantage is hypothetical of course, as it leaves aside the fact that it is possible that some 2nd place teams will be stronger than some winners (Puerto Rico should end up ahead of Santos Laguna in D, Houston could displace Pumas to 2nd in B as they have a game in hand, while in A if things stay the same either Saprissa or Marathon, another Honduras team, will be 2nd, easier teams than likely winner Cruz Azul, for me the overall favourite)

Seems to me the best draw for Impact amongst logical possibilities would be to get another Honduras team, Marathon.

[Sam]

Congrats to the Impact - what they have done this year in the CL has been amazing.

[mtl-supporter23]

Conditioning shouldn't be a problem for Montreal as once again next year players are going to be under contract for 10 months as opposed to 6-7 (the norm in usl/mls). After their game in Cancun they'll get a well deserved break and will return to the training pitch in January where JS will have several friendlies planned until their QF match-up.

mtl-supporter23

[loyola]

quote:Originally posted by mtl-supporter23

Conditioning shouldn't be a problem for Montreal as once again next year players are going to be under contract for 10 months as opposed to 6-7 (the norm in usl/mls). After their game in Cancun they'll get a well deserved break and will return to the training pitch in January where JS will have several friendlies planned until their QF match-up.

mtl-supporter23


Let's hope for another european trip and playing good opposition sometime in the end of January or early February.

Or maybe just Florida where you always have a couple of Danish clubs looking for games.

[Keano]

Much better crowd than I expected given the 3 degrees celsius and constant, driving rain. And the best is that most who came out on such a day were the types who stayed for 90 minutes! Sweet. I'd rather that than 10 000 half of whom file out as soon as there's a gust of wind or rain. A smattering of Olimpia support but nothing much. Considering the ball was skipping wet and the footing was terrible, kudos to the Impact for staying together on defense and playing the ball on the ground despite the conditions.

[VPjr]

1st of all...Congrats to the Impact and their loyal supporters. When I tuned in last night, Roberto Brown had just scored and they showed a wide shot that made it clear that it was a miserable night in Montreal yet the stadium was loud. I was impressed.

2nd....as a TFC supporter, I am so jealous about how nicely your team plays. What excellent ball control. Amazing that a "minor league" team can play a fluid ball control, constant movement game when most teams in the so called "major league" are incapable. I was really impressed with Grande, Gjertsen, Placcentino and especially Di Lorenzo. I can only wish Toronto had that kind of talent in Midfield. This is a true example of a team of individually skilled players that have bought into a system and enjoys playing together and for each other. It was a treat. I really enjoyed that game last night.

3rd...what a class move by the players to come over, despite the rain and cold conditions and celebrate with the supporters behind the goal. Someone does need to tell Grande to keep his shorts on though....LOL

All in all, a great display of soccer on an entirely awful night for soccer. Good team + good fans = Great show. Keep it up...Canadian soccer fans should be very proud. Hopefully TFC is watching and realizing you can actually win with a Canadian heavy roster (despite what the "brilliant" Mo Johnston thinks).

[Rudi]

Congrats to MTL.

I'm not sure why these threads always have to turn into some sort of TFC bitchfest though. Is it not possible to appreciate Montreal's accomplishments on their own merits?

[Kurosawa]

quote:Originally posted by VPjr

3rd...what a class move by the players to come over, despite the rain and cold conditions and celebrate with the supporters behind the goal. Someone does need to tell Grande to keep his shorts on though....LOL



Grande's short were picked up by the kid of a poster on the Impactsoccer board.

I read in the JDM that Grande refused a contract in England to play with the Impact. We don't know where but that still shows how serious this organisation is.

[Keano]

quote:Originally posted by Rudi

Congrats to MTL.

I'm not sure why these threads always have to turn into some sort of TFC bitchfest though. Is it not possible to appreciate Montreal's accomplishments on their own merits?


I know what you mean but I think it's natural that it kind of holds a light to the issues of Canadian content that some TFC fans are frustrated about....

[squizz]

Sounding like a broken record, but -- well done Impact, and well done Ultras, you were definitely seen and heard last night.

But I'm surprised no one has yet mentioned the name of last night's ref -- or is it a "he whose name shall not be spoken" kinda thing?

[Rudi]

quote:Originally posted by Keano


quote:Originally posted by Rudi

Congrats to MTL.

I'm not sure why these threads always have to turn into some sort of TFC bitchfest though. Is it not possible to appreciate Montreal's accomplishments on their own merits?


I know what you mean but I think it's natural that it kind of holds a light to the issues of Canadian content that some TFC fans are frustrated about....

I think the Canadian content issue for TFC has been way oversimplified by many here.

Not that any of that matters in this thread, though. This is a thread about the Impact. If I was a Montreal supporter, I'd be annoyed by the fact that normal discussion about my team couldn't take place without numerous mentions of Toronto.

[Keano]

quote:Originally posted by squizz

Sounding like a broken record, but -- well done Impact, and well done Ultras, you were definitely seen and heard last night.

But I'm surprised no one has yet mentioned the name of last night's ref -- or is it a "he whose name shall not be spoken" kinda thing?


I think the fact that none of his horrific non-calls actually happened to impact the outcome of the game, coupled with the fact that he was hit in the leg by some shrapnel from a near-by exploding snowball, has people generally satisfied with the situation....:)

[lolita]

Bravo aux joueurs de l'Impact.

Il fallait être courageuse pour être au stade Saputo hier soir, mais l'effort en a valu la peine. En plus du froid, c'est sous une bonne pluie et un vent nordique soufflant à au moins 40 km/h ...vivement le chocolat chaud et l'habit de ski-doo dans la tribune sud.

Il reste encore un match, mercredi prochain, à Cancun (au Mexique) pour affronter l'Atlante FC, eux aussi qualifiés pour les prochains quarts de finales...

[bettermirror]

FANTASTIQUE!

[The Beaver]

Damn proud of the Impact and their supporters! The Caps winning the USL and the Impact doing so well in CL bodes well for the future of the game in the country, along with all the MLS bids. There is hope!

[MastaK]

Yeah that ref can kiss my ass. Can't believe he didn't call something on that. It was probably planned so the Olimpia players would have an easy counter-attack while Impact players are complaining.

Allez l'Impact! Allez Montréal! They earned themselves a good vacation in Cancun, with no stress!

[SteveBeau]

Hats off to The Montreal Gazette newspaper who put the Impact's historic win on their front page instead of which fourth line Guy Carbonneau will ice for the habs next game!!

are times a changin' ??

[Ed]

Great group stage for the Impact!! Can't wait til February!

I love Grande's quote from the CP story posted at tsn.ca:

"Saputo said he has asked that an exception be made for the Impact, who have nowhere else in the city to hold the match. He cringes at some of the suggested alternatives, such as playing at Rogers Centre in Toronto or in Florida where many Montrealers spend their winter vacations.

Limniatis agrees.

"Olympic Stadium is the only place to hold the match, so they have to make it work," he said.

Added Grande: "I think we could get 30,000 in there, and that would be sick."

[Free kick]

quote:Originally posted by the biologist

On the TSN site, it's not even on the main page !!! Surprised ? Certainly not coming from the Toronto Sports Network.

IT'S SO FRUSTRATING THAT THE MEDIA ARE SO TORONTO-CENTRIC !!!

When it's not about TFC, it's about "how the Leafs could rebuild ?", "will the Jays finish 3rd, 4th or 5th this year ?", "will the Raptors finally progress ?", etc.


Another one of those blame Toronto, ask questions later comments which you see so often here.

Here is some info for you. TSN has been shunning domestic soccer for a while now. Its has nothing to do with toronto or the fact that the IMPACT are not a Toronto team. They were the only media outlet to dump on the MLS and the beckham signing. They report nothing related to MLS or USL or CCL. ever. Conclusion: they hitch their wagon on Euro championships and WCQ and then dump of local soccer.

Its pretty easy if you follow closely to realize they invested a great deal of $$$ in the CFL. the CFL season runs counter to soccer in canada and competed for customers and corporate support in much the same battle ground. Draw your own conclusions.

[jpg75]

quote:Originally posted by the biologist

On the TSN site, it's not even on the main page !!! Surprised ? Certainly not coming from the Toronto Sports Network. Frustrated ? You bet !!! But I must admit there are some BREAKING NEWS in there. Yeah, really. Like, did you know that "Cowboys' Romo says Johnson will start against Tampa", "Jyles gets the call for Riders against Edmonton", "Senators break up tandem of Heatley and Spezza", "Report: Avery in heated confrontation with TV host" and more interestingly that "Curlin draws No. 9 post, favourite at Breeders' Cup Classic" (horse racing ?????????) ?

I've send a talkback for this news saying:

"Please TSN, put this news on the home page of your site ! Show us you care at least a little about Canadian soccer, not to say soccer at all. It's history the Impact made today, so they deserve to be WELL supported by our media here in Canada and to be cheered by every Canadian who want soccer to be successful in this country."

Ho much you bet it ain't gonna be posted at all !!! Well, I know them too much to have had an ounce of a tought it could work, but still, in the frenzy I find myself with the win...

Edit

On Sportsnet.ca, it's merely in the list of news to the right. On their soccer home page, again no mention of it besides the list of news. Their main news is "TFC hope to end with a victory" ?!?!?. The game will be played ONLY SATURDAY !!! HEY, WE'RE TUESDAY AND THE IMPACT WON !!! Why don't they make different home pages depending of your region ? They even ask us which "Sportsnet region" we're in at the top of the page, so what's the matter with them ?

IT'S SO FRUSTRATING THAT THE MEDIA ARE SO TORONTO-CENTRIC !!!

When it's not about TFC, it's about "how the Leafs could rebuild ?", "will the Jays finish 3rd, 4th or 5th this year ?", "will the Raptors finally progress ?", etc.


Typical, can't even enjoy your win without moaning about Toronto. And most of the news on the TSN front page isn't even Toronto related!!

By the way, congrats to the Impact and their fans.

[Tuscan]

The second half was one of the most entertaining halves I've seen in a while. The madness in front of the Olimpia goal after the header that was cleared off the line seemed to last ages, while Archundia's incompetence almost led to a goal at the other end on that break. I'm thinking it's time for a trip to Montreal come either February or March.

[JamboAl]

Congrats to the Impact from down the 417 as well. I think I'll be making the short trip to the Big O in Feb/Mar.

Archundia got hit by a snowball? I don't advocate that sort of thing but in this case, I'll make an exception. Good Job!

[Mpenza]

quote:Originally posted by JamboAl
Archundia got hit by a snowball?


It came really close... like inches away.

[VPjr]

quote:Originally posted by MastaK

Yeah that ref can kiss my ass. Can't believe he didn't call something on that. It was probably planned so the Olimpia players would have an easy counter-attack while Impact players are complaining.



I couldn't believe that the ref didn't even call a simple foul when the Honduran smacked Rocco in the mouth. incredible.

[Cheeta]

^ Yeah, that was wicked. Maybe more clumsy than anything but still. I'm sure if it hadn't occured in such a wonderful spot to be awarded, like way further up-field, a free kick it would have been called. But, then maybe I'm just cynical.

[MastaK]

By the way the attendance was 5500 but 8961 tickets were sold.

[gator]

^ I guess that's not bad when you consider how ugly the weather was, I would have loved to have been there! Here's hoping they can draw a big crowd in the next round at the Big Owe, they deserve it!

[the biologist]

quote:Originally posted by Free kick


quote:Originally posted by the biologist

On the TSN site, it's not even on the main page !!! Surprised ? Certainly not coming from the Toronto Sports Network.

IT'S SO FRUSTRATING THAT THE MEDIA ARE SO TORONTO-CENTRIC !!!

When it's not about TFC, it's about "how the Leafs could rebuild ?", "will the Jays finish 3rd, 4th or 5th this year ?", "will the Raptors finally progress ?", etc.


Another one of those blame Toronto, ask questions later comments which you see so often here.

Here is some info for you. TSN has been shunning domestic soccer for a while now. Its has nothing to do with toronto or the fact that the IMPACT are not a Toronto team. They were the only media outlet to dump on the MLS and the beckham signing. They report nothing related to MLS or USL or CCL. ever. Conclusion: they hitch their wagon on Euro championships and WCQ and then dump of local soccer.

Its pretty easy if you follow closely to realize they invested a great deal of $$$ in the CFL. the CFL season runs counter to soccer in canada and competed for customers and corporate support in much the same battle ground. Draw your own conclusions.
Hey, why don't you quote the entire post I made ? 'Cause I also said that: "Please TSN, put this news on the home page of your site ! Show us you care at least a little about [u]Canadian soccer, not to say soccer at all</u>. It's history the Impact made today, so they deserve to be WELL supported by our media here in Canada and to be cheered by every Canadian who want soccer to be successful in this country.". I blame the fact TSN doesn't give a sh*t to soccer other than european competitions and leagues. We agree on the same thing here. BUT, I saw MANY TIMES the report article for Toronto FC games appear on the main page, and you know it's true. All I ask for is THE SAME TREATMENT, THE SAME PLACE IN THE LIST OF NEWS TO THE RIGHT (don't even care if it's at the bottom, I just want to see it there). This victory is AT LEAST as important for canadian soccer as the "Toronto FC eliminated from playoffs despite first home win in 4 months" news, that actually APPEARED on the main page. THAT was my point. Get it ? Hope so...

Secundo, I'm far to be the only guy in Canada who calls this media the "Toronto Sports Network". That's just an opinion about the guys who run the station, THIS IS NOT A TORONTO-BASHING STATEMENT AT ALL !!! I'm not thinking about TO when the Impact plays. But when they achieve a huge feat, and sports networks in Canada doesn't tell anything about it, but on the main page of Sportsnet.ca (and I selected the "EAST" region), they think TFC's next game (meaningless by the way) is more a big deal than the Impact's win, well, like you said yourself, draw your own conclusions.

I must admit that Sportsnet looks waaaaaaaaaaaaay more Ontario-centric than TSN these days and TSN talks much more about ALL THE CANADIAN TEAMS in the NHL and CFL (yeah I know as much as you do about the CFL-TSN deal)than before.

When all the country gets to watch the Maple Leafs EVERY SATURDAY because of the CBC, you know what I'm talking about. FOR YEARS, the Habs played saturday night games at the same time the Leafs were playing too. Guess what ? A dude in MONTREAL on CBC MONTREAL couldn't watch a game played in MONTREAL. We just had to watch the Leafs and shut up our mouth. I know I'm off-topic with that but it just shows that these frustrations dates back from some years.

[the biologist]

quote:Originally posted by jpg75

Typical, can't even enjoy your win without moaning about Toronto. And most of the news on the TSN front page isn't even Toronto related!!

By the way, congrats to the Impact and their fans.
By the way, I was moaning about the media in TO, not about the TORONTONIANS. I enjoy too the support we get from TFC fans cause YOU REALISE what the Impact is doing. And you know FOR SURE that TFC gets more attention on both TSN and Sportsnet. You would be lying not to admit it. And you know what ? It doesn't bother be NORMALLY that TO gets all the attention when it comes to soccer (specially on the Sportsnet website, seriously, read my previous post), BUT THIS TIME IS DIFFERENT. This is the QF-clinching game of the CCL !!!

Be honest and try to tell me without lol that there wouldn't be a better coverage of this CANADIAN FEAT if it was TO that had realised it. Yeah, give it a try...

[gator]

Until a couple of years ago we could watch the Habs in Ontario on the French CBC, now they're all on RDS I believe, it sucks! I really hope the local interest in the Impact picks up, they're great to watch no matter how the national media treat it! And props to CBC for having the games on live, even if it's on Bold or the net!

[Free kick]

The national sports media in Canada is definitly overly Toronto centric. As a result we get screwed out of good stories all the time because of it. You wont get any arguments from me on that one.

[the biologist]

quote:Originally posted by gator

Until a couple of years ago we could watch the Habs in Ontario on the French CBC, now they're all on RDS I believe, it sucks! I really hope the local interest in the Impact picks up, they're great to watch no matter how the national media treat it! And props to CBC for having the games on live, even if it's on Bold or the net!
I agree with you and I should've been more grateful on this one. They talk about the Impact on their website and there is a guy (de Vos), like him or not, who gives a sh*t about what's happening in Montreal.

[MTLcanada514]

Hopefully on TV station gets its act together for next season, i.e. CBC,SRC or RDS gets its act together for next season (beginning with the CCL quarterfinals) and shows some Impact games LIVE ON A CHANNEL ACCESSIBLE TO ANYONE. Not everyone has CBC bold and not everyone has an internet connection fast enough to stream the games properly and it sucks on a computer screen anyways. So my wish for next year is that one of the channels covers at least 40% of the regular season games, 100% of the CCL games and 100% of the playoff games and works their damn "fall schedule" which is quite frankly pathetic (src mainly since theyre the quebec station) around the Impact games. Wishful thinking? maybe but thats my opinion

[Time_for_2014]

quote:Originally posted by MTLcanada514

Hopefully on TV station gets its act together for next season, i.e. CBC,SRC or RDS gets its act together for next season (beginning with the CCL quarterfinals) and shows some Impact games LIVE ON A CHANNEL ACCESSIBLE TO ANYONE. Not everyone has CBC bold and not everyone has an internet connection fast enough to stream the games properly and it sucks on a computer screen anyways. So my wish for next year is that one of the channels covers at least 40% of the regular season games, 100% of the CCL games and 100% of the playoff games and works their damn "fall schedule" which is quite frankly pathetic (src mainly since theyre the quebec station) around the Impact games. Wishful thinking? maybe but thats my opinion

I totally agree...so totally agree

[jpg75]

quote:Originally posted by the biologist


quote:Originally posted by jpg75

Typical, can't even enjoy your win without moaning about Toronto. And most of the news on the TSN front page isn't even Toronto related!!

By the way, congrats to the Impact and their fans.
By the way, I was moaning about the media in TO, not about the TORONTONIANS. I enjoy too the support we get from TFC fans cause YOU REALISE what the Impact is doing. And you know FOR SURE that TFC gets more attention on both TSN and Sportsnet. You would be lying not to admit it. And you know what ? It doesn't bother be NORMALLY that TO gets all the attention when it comes to soccer (specially on the Sportsnet website, seriously, read my previous post), BUT THIS TIME IS DIFFERENT. This is the QF-clinching game of the CCL !!!

Be honest and try to tell me without lol that there wouldn't be a better coverage of this CANADIAN FEAT if it was TO that had realised it. Yeah, give it a try...


I don't think they buried the story to their "Soccer" page because it was a Montreal team, i think they did it because it's a USL team. Toronto FC gets all their coverage because they're in MLS and it's the "Beckham league", when the Lynx were around they didn't **** in terms of coverage. Say things were reversed and the Impact were in MLS, i think it's fair to say that they'd get the front page stories instead of the Lynx. And if the Lynx were V's Cup champs and in the CCL (yeah, let's all laugh at that one!) they'd probably get their step-child treatment too.

Anyways your original post was quite valid, but when you edited it and started bitching about Sportsnet and the Leafs, Jays, Raptors etc. you came off as a bitter ranter.

[the biologist]

quote:Originally posted by jpg75

I don't think they buried the story to their "Soccer" page because it was a Montreal team, i think they did it because it's a USL team. Toronto FC gets all their coverage because they're in MLS and it's the "Beckham league", when the Lynx were around they didn't **** in terms of coverage. Say things were reversed and the Impact were in MLS, i think it's fair to say that they'd get the front page stories instead of the Lynx. And if the Lynx were V's Cup champs and in the CCL (yeah, let's all laugh at that one!) they'd probably get their step-child treatment too.

Anyways your original post was quite valid, but when you edited it and started bitching about Sportsnet and the Leafs, Jays, Raptors etc. you came off as a bitter ranter.
I'm gonna be a little off-topic again but just want to be clear. Each time there's a fighter from Quebec who gets crowned or defend his crown successfully, there's no SINGLE mention of it on TSN. But when it comes to Molitor (who's now by the way trained by the guy who trained Lucian Bute), they even telecast his fight !!! We've got 4 or 5 fighters who got the chance te become or actually became champions in their category and nobody talked about it, except for Russ Anber (the guy who actually comes from Montreal...). And where do Molitor comes from ? Yeah, Ontario.

So the problem for TSN = They should talk more about soccer. Period. We both agree on that, about what I said in my "quite valid" ;) first post. On the other hand, Sportsnet cares more about the game for sure as they hold the rights for the national team. The problem with sportsnet.ca is that they put all their TO stuff from their Ontario people everywhere on the site. That's the case for every TO-based team and every columnists ALWAYS talk about the Leafs. I do care waaaaaaay much about the Sens, but nope. It looks like Sportsnet West and Pacific are more decentralised. But here in the Eastern part, EAST = TORONTO-based teams, not only in soccer. And not only at the expense of Montreal, but at the expense of every other city outside TO (even Ottawa with the Sens, as they're also an Ontario-based team that deserve much more attention).

I think this topic should now be closed. It's just my opinion after all. I ain't gonna whine again on this, at least for a while. My promise :) (but if those same media doesn't give a crap about the Impact's QF 2-leg series in the CCL, then maybe... [}:)]).

GO IMPACT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [:p]

[bettermirror]

Well now that they have progressed to the quarter-final. If somehow, by some divine retribution from the Futbol gods to Canadian soccer, the Impact made the World Club Cup - it seems they'd be playing either Adelaide or Gamba!

http://www.fifa.com/clubworldcup/news/newsid=922677.html?cid=newsletter&att=en_20081023_newsid922677

[Trident]

Biologist, give it up, I understand your first post wasn't too bad concerning toronto, but now everyone with location on the other side of the border is talking about Toronto in this thread.

Just give it up, no one can win in this situation.

IMFC
UM02

CANADIAN CHAMPIONS FOREVER.

[Trident]

quote:Originally posted by bettermirror

Well now that they have progressed to the quarter-final. If somehow, by some divine retribution from the Futbol gods to Canadian soccer, the Impact made the World Club Cup - it seems they'd be playing either Adelaide or Gamba!

http://www.fifa.com/clubworldcup/news/newsid=922677.html?cid=newsletter&att=en_20081023_newsid922677



I would love to fly to Osaka again, as a fan of a visiting team.

[the biologist]

quote:Originally posted by Trident

Biologist, give it up, I understand your first post wasn't too bad concerning toronto, but now everyone with location on the other side of the border is talking about Toronto in this thread.

Just give it up, no one can win in this situation.

IMFC
UM02

CANADIAN CHAMPIONS FOREVER.
Well, that's what I'm doing now ;)

quote:Originally posted by the biologist

I think this topic should now be closed. It's just my opinion after all. I ain't gonna whine again on this, at least for a while. My promise :) (but if those same media doesn't give a crap about the Impact's QF 2-leg series in the CCL, then maybe... [}:)]).

GO IMPACT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [:p]
Don't panic. What's in bold is a joke. [:o)]

I was just trying to express my disappointment in the frenzy of the result we had to get and finally got, not to start a discussion about sports media in Canada on a thread for the CCL game. But still, there's some people who misunderstood what I said and that helps to create a no win situation...

OVER FOR GOOD.