July 22nd: MTL @ TFC for all the marbles [R]

[Daniel]

Guess it's a good idea to start the discussion.

An Impact win or draw sees them crowned, while TFC need a win. Goal differential can no longer be affected.

[Sam]

Biggest game in TFC and Impact history?

[Rudi]

I love amrbles :D

[Daniel]

quote:Originally posted by Rudi

I love amrbles :D


D'oh! Corrected.

As for the biggest game. I'd say the 1994 final remains the biggest for the Impact, as that put them on the map.

Second is between this game and the 2004 final (depending on the result on the 22nd).

[Rudi]

The atmosphere for the game should be electric (if the game against Vancouver was any indication).

How many traveling Montreal supporters can we expect?

[Daniel]

quote:Originally posted by Rudi

The atmosphere for the game should be electric (if the game against Vancouver was any indication).

How many traveling Montreal supporters can we expect?


I'd say 30-40.

[CanadianSoccerFan]

I'd expect this atmosphere to be much more electric. The sense of urgency with Toronto fans will be much more evident in a do or die situation as opposed to regular season games where a lot of fans are just having a good time.

[themodelcitizen]

This will be the first time we're getting a real "cup final" atmosphere at BMO. (and no, the Carlsberg Cup doesn't count) Can't wait. I wonder if TFC have a trophy case set up and ready? [8D]

[Daniel]

quote:Originally posted by themodelcitizen
I wonder if TFC have a trophy case set up and ready? [8D]


It'd be great for carrying the cup back to Montreal ;).

[SilverSamurai]

quote:Originally posted by Daniel


quote:Originally posted by themodelcitizen
I wonder if TFC have a trophy case set up and ready? [8D]


It'd be great for carrying the cup back to Montreal ;).

Nah, they have a trophy room set up and need some more silverware to add besides Edu's Rookie of the Year trophy from last year.

[Trillium]

quote:Originally posted by Rudi

The atmosphere for the game should be electric (if the game against Vancouver was any indication).

How many traveling Montreal supporters can we expect?
What is the ticket availabilty .. are there going to be scalpers outside ?

[TFC07]

Is Ali Gerba playing this game?

[Daniel]

If the impact sign him...

[Rudi]

quote:Originally posted by Trillium


quote:Originally posted by Rudi

The atmosphere for the game should be electric (if the game against Vancouver was any indication).

How many traveling Montreal supporters can we expect?
What is the ticket availabilty .. are there going to be scalpers outside ?

Far too many.

[kodiakTFC]

quote:Originally posted by themodelcitizen

This will be the first time we're getting a real "cup final" atmosphere at BMO. (and no, the Carlsberg Cup doesn't count) Can't wait. I wonder if TFC have a trophy case set up and ready? [8D]



That game had a pretty damn good atmosphere if you ask me, especially considering it was a friendly!

[Massive Attack]

quote:Originally posted by Rudi


quote:Originally posted by Trillium


quote:Originally posted by Rudi

The atmosphere for the game should be electric (if the game against Vancouver was any indication).

How many traveling Montreal supporters can we expect?
What is the ticket availabilty .. are there going to be scalpers outside ?

Far too many.


I checked ticketbastard last night and only the $70 tickets were available in pairs.

There will be scalpers. There always are. They were even at the recent Canada-Argentina U-20 friendly that only sold about 5000 tickets.

[Sam]

I don't get CBC Bold so I'm going to watch this one on TLN (with Italian commentary ...urgh. Will TLN be producing the game themselves and for people more familiar with TLN, so they do a good job of producing games?

[bettermirror]

watch it on cbc.ca/sports

[Sam]

quote:Originally posted by bettermirror

watch it on cbc.ca/sports


big screen over small computer stream

[Massive Attack]

The TLN broadcast will most likely be the CBC camera feed with Alf DeBlasis commentary.

[piltdownman]

quote:Originally posted by leafdolfan


quote:Originally posted by bettermirror

watch it on cbc.ca/sports


big screen over small computer stream


Don't worry its about the same quality. While I like that they are carrying this games, the quality makes me wish my tv had the ability to scale down the image so its only a quarter of the size.

[themodelcitizen]

tbh sometimes the Italian feed is better than the commentary on offer elsewhere. It's not as bad with CBC, but during Champions League games with Italian teams I often find it more bearable to watch TLN with the rapidfire Italian voiceover than Tommy Smyth and that other guy on ESPN's feed that TSN picks up.

[VPjr]

quote:Originally posted by Trillium


quote:Originally posted by Rudi

The atmosphere for the game should be electric (if the game against Vancouver was any indication).

How many traveling Montreal supporters can we expect?
What is the ticket availabilty .. are there going to be scalpers outside ?


check the ticket exchange on RPB and U-Sector. There are bound to be some tickets available at face value so you don't have to deal with the scalper scumbags

[Tuscan]

So is there a good reason other than a baseball game or something lame like that why this game has been bumped to a secondary station (Bold)? This is the Canadian Championship, and it's barely getting national coverage on a secondary channel!

[Whither Canada]

Might this game be televised on the CBC French channel, Radio-Canada?

The reason I'm optimistic is that I happened to check out the Impact game played last weekend (vs Rochester?) on Radio-Canada and it was in glorious Hi-Definition !!

Now there are all sorts of political games at play when it comes to how our Quebec brethren are treated with respect to the money that gets thrown at them, but I've yet to see a Toronto FC game on CBC in high-def. But that's a topic for a different forum.

At any rate, I'll try to check out Radio-Canada's TV schedule.

[Massive Attack]

Last time I checked Radio-Canada's schedule the game wasn't on it.

[Whither Canada]

quote:Originally posted by Massive Attack

Last time I checked Radio-Canada's schedule the game wasn't on it.

Yes, you're right. I just checked and it's not there. Unfortunate, that.

This Friday night's Impact game is on though, once again in glorious hi-def.

[michaeltfc91]

So is there going to be a huge celebration for whoever wins this tourney?
Will we see the captain of the winner lift the trophy at center on a huge stage?
I am going to the game and really want this to be a big deal for whoever wins

[piltdownman]

quote:Originally posted by Whither Canada

This Friday night's Impact game is on though, once again in glorious hi-def.


Really? I watched a Impact game on Radio-Canada last week and it looked like it filmed with a webcam.

[CanadaTFC]

True. although we rival Montreal, I will be in delight seeing two professional football clubs playing each other.

[Sam]

Prediction: Toronto 1-0 Montreal
69' Jimmy B

I want a Canadian to score the winner

[theaub]

I somehow found tickets in 227 three days ago, so yay me.

[Rudi]

TFC will be without Edu, Wynne, Dichio, Dunivant, and possibly Tébily.

Ugh.

[Grizzly]

quote:Originally posted by Rudi

TFC will be without Edu, Wynne, Dichio, Dunivant, and possibly Tébily.

Ugh.


Thinking up excuses already!

[Mpenza]

Montreal will be without MLS. Ugh.

:)

[Gian-Luca]

quote:Originally posted by Rudi

TFC will be without Edu, Wynne, Dichio, Dunivant, and possibly Tébily.

Ugh.


Are we sure about Edu & Wynne? I know the US Olympic team begins training on July 20th but I thought I read that Edu & Wynne were joining up with that team later than that.

[VPjr]

^ I agree with G-L. i think there is a good chance Marvell and Mo will be leaving for US Olympics training camp after the 22nd.

[tmcmurph]

quote:Originally posted by VPjr

^ I agree with G-L. i think there is a good chance Marvell and Mo will be leaving for US Olympics training camp after the 22nd.


Let Edu go early but keep Mr Wynne if you want to win [8D]

[Rudi]

quote:Originally posted by Grizzly


quote:Originally posted by Rudi

TFC will be without Edu, Wynne, Dichio, Dunivant, and possibly Tébily.

Ugh.


Thinking up excuses already!

You're on to me. [8)]

[Gordon]

Gotta say that, although I would have preferred that the Whitecaps won it, I am happy that it has worked out to a showdown "for all the marbles".

[Richard]

Rather embarrasing for MLS if the last placed USL-1 team wins the Canadian Championship.

[Kurosawa]

Not last place anymore!!!

[Grizzly]

In the first Canadian Championship game, U-Sector took a seat from Saputo Stadium home to Toronto. Tuesday the Ultras Montreal are travelling to Montreal to take home the Voyageurs Cup to Montreal!!!

[TFC07]

TFC will come out and dominate this game.

Final score: 3-nil for good guys.

Only the way TFC will lose this game is if the ref screw us over.

[Mpenza]

3-0, seeing the way they've played in this tournament so far, yeah it makes sense.

Hahaha... :)

[Grizzly]

quote:Originally posted by TFC07

TFC will come out and dominate this game.

Final score: 3-nil for good guys.

Only the way TFC will lose this game is if the ref screw us over.


Looking at the results I guess TFC has been getting screwed by the ref every game. And here was I just thinking the results were because TFC was playing like crap.

[Richard]

It's always the referee's fault when your team loses don't you know! ;)

[michaeltfc91]

The result coming from a TFC fan...
TFC will get 40 shots, 20 on target, 5 posts and 5 offside goals and 80% possession
and it will end 0-0

[TFC07]

Well if we going to judge TFC based on this tournament, then TFC should beat Impact again. The ref screwed TFC on Canada day against whitecraps. Besides the loss against Vancouver, TFC haven't loss a game at home. This being a do or die game for TFC, I except them coming out aggressively while Montreal will just sit back and try to defend for 90 mins to get a draw.

[Cheeta]

If Toronto plays anything like they've played the last couple of matches (most especially today) they could be in for a rough time on Tuesday. They have no rhythm whatsoever.

Should be a very interesting match. Maybe not the best football but a very interesting match. Can quite easily see it getting chippy.

[Massive Attack]

quote:Originally posted by TFC07

Well if we going to judge TFC based on this tournament, then TFC should beat Impact again. The ref screwed TFC on Canada day against whitecraps. Besides the loss against Vancouver, TFC haven't loss a game at home. This being a do or die game for TFC, I except them coming out aggressively while Montreal will just sit back and try to defend for 90 mins to get a draw.


I'm a TFC fan, but let's call a spade a spade. TFC were lucky that Placentino wasn't awarded a penalty in the road game against Montreal. Nobody will ever know how that match would have turned out had Montreal taken a 1-0 lead.

[Grizzly]

Tyrone Marshall doing a bit of trash talking. It will make it so much sweeter when he is responsible for goals against TFC and Jamaica at BMO:

"We'll be coming in firing on all cylinders," said Toronto defender Tyrone Marshall. "Especially being at home, and seeing how the last time Vancouver (Whitecaps) came in here and got a result.

"We have to come out and establish ourselves and show them we're playing in a higher league and their league blows. So we need to come and establish our authority."

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Soccer/2008/07/19/6207701-cp.html

[JayWay]

quote:Originally posted by Grizzly

Tyrone Marshall doing a bit of trash talking. It will make it so much sweeter when he is responsible for goals against TFC and Jamaica at BMO:

"We'll be coming in firing on all cylinders," said Toronto defender Tyrone Marshall. "Especially being at home, and seeing how the last time Vancouver (Whitecaps) came in here and got a result.

"We have to come out and establish ourselves and show them we're playing in a higher league and their league blows. So we need to come and establish our authority."

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Soccer/2008/07/19/6207701-cp.html


Marshall then went on to add that defeating the inferior Impact would be easier than that time he sneaked onto the Voyageur's forum under the pseudonym "Canada 3000" and stole the Canadian supporters' access code.

Seriously, though. Screw your team. Screw your supporters. Screw your entire way of life.

3 - 0 TFC

[Grizzly]

quote:Originally posted by JayWay


quote:Originally posted by Grizzly

Tyrone Marshall doing a bit of trash talking. It will make it so much sweeter when he is responsible for goals against TFC and Jamaica at BMO:

"We'll be coming in firing on all cylinders," said Toronto defender Tyrone Marshall. "Especially being at home, and seeing how the last time Vancouver (Whitecaps) came in here and got a result.

"We have to come out and establish ourselves and show them we're playing in a higher league and their league blows. So we need to come and establish our authority."

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Soccer/2008/07/19/6207701-cp.html


Marshall then went on to add that defeating the inferior Impact would be easier than that time he sneaked onto the Voyageur's forum under the pseudonym "Canada 3000" and stole the Canadian supporters' access code.

Seriously, though. Screw your team. Screw your supporters. Screw your entire way of life.

3 - 0 TFC


Apparently coming home drunk at 4 in the morning makes you very bitter, JW. I instantly see how your entire way of life is so much superior to mine!

[Trillium]

Have the Impact fans choosen a bar to drink in ?

Will the Quebec Counsel Andre Fournierbe on hand at the game to help fans caught by Fantinos Fanatics....

Impact fans note your Counsel General in Toronto is:

Alternate Name Bureau du Québec à Toronto
Address 20 Queen St W, Ste 1504
Toronto, ON M5H 3S3
Intersection Queen St W & Yonge St
Mailing Address c/o Andre Fournier
PO Box 13

Office Phone 416-977-6713
Fax 416-596-1407
Organization Email bqtoronto@mce.gouv.qc.ca
Website www.saic.gouv.qc.ca/bureauduquebec/bureau_quebec_toronto.htm


Map (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=government%20of%20quebec%20in%20toronto&rls=com.microsoft:*:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLJ&um=1&sa=N&tab=wl)

[Mpenza]

You guys are funny. :)

[Mr.Impact]

Here is my starting 11 for the Montreal Impact;


Matt Jordan


Adam Braz Nevio Pizzolitto Stefano Pesoli Simon Gatti


Joey Gjertsen Patrick Leduc Leo DiLorenzo Rocco Placentino



Severino Jefferson Roberto Brown

[Cheeta]

How sweet would it be for Braz to win the Vs Cup against Toronto in Toronto.

Maybe he could invite Trader Mo on a road trip to Nicaragua. You know, let Mo get some scouting in down there so he can fill those 29 international slots.

[Rudi]

quote:Originally posted by Mr.Impact

Here is my starting 11 for the Montreal Impact;


Matt Jordan


Adam Braz Nevio Pizzolitto Stefano Pesoli Simon Gatti


Joey Gjertsen Patrick Leduc Leo DiLorenzo Rocco Placentino



Severino Jefferson Roberto Brown


Here's who I think starts for TFC:

--------------------------- Greg Sutton


Marvell Wynne ---- Marco Velez ------ Tyrone Marshall ---- Jim Brennan

-------------------- Maurice Edu --- Carl Robinson


Rohan Ricketts ---------------------------------------- Laurent Robert


--------------------------- Amado Guevara


---------------------------- Ibee Ibrahim

[Mr.Impact]

quote:Originally posted by Cheeta

How sweet would it be for Braz to win the Vs Cup against Toronto in Toronto.

Maybe he could invite Trader Mo on a road trip to Nicaragua. You know, let Mo get some scouting in down there so he can fill those 29 international slots.


Trader Mo in Nicaragua? never going to happen. Trader Mo prefers over the hill players from the british isles, that have never won anything, just like his current team.

[Grizzly]

Mo would never pick up cheap players from South/Central America. His commission would not be high enough.

[CanadaTFC]

I know Nicaragua is pretty bad a football but I bet if there was a good player down there, you would probably get THE greatest deal ever! You easily triple the salary he's getting in Nica.

[Grizzly]

quote:Originally posted by CanadaTFC
[you would probably get THE greatest deal ever!


Not a great deal for the guys making commissions off the contract.

[CanadaTFC]

Hmm, here's Samuel Wilson who used to play for Real Esteli.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwXF90UqsZo

[Rudi]

quote:Originally posted by Mr.Impact


quote:Originally posted by Cheeta

How sweet would it be for Braz to win the Vs Cup against Toronto in Toronto.

Maybe he could invite Trader Mo on a road trip to Nicaragua. You know, let Mo get some scouting in down there so he can fill those 29 international slots.


Trader Mo in Nicaragua? never going to happen. Trader Mo prefers over the hill players from the british isles, that have never won anything, just like his current team.

The ironic thing is that there are exactly three players from the British Isles on TFC's roster, ages 33, 31 and 26.

[jimmynow]

quote:Originally posted by Cheeta

How sweet would it be for Braz to win the Vs Cup against Toronto in Toronto.

Maybe he could invite Trader Mo on a road trip to Nicaragua. You know, let Mo get some scouting in down there so he can fill those 29 international slots.


Sweet? Braz should thank Mo Johnston for the paycheque he got last year. Braz basically should have given the money back for how badly he played...

If Mo scouts in Nicaragua he'd surely find better players than Adam Braz!

I'm really glad the Impact still have him, because he was always good for at least one goal against when he played. But pylons are like that ;) I know though, that down in the USL he doesn't get as exposed as often as he did in MLS, so you guys think he's God.

[Grizzly]

I certainly don't think Braz is god but he is no worse than most of TFC's backline, Brennan excluded.

[Trident]

quote:Originally posted by jimmynow


quote:Originally posted by Cheeta

How sweet would it be for Braz to win the Vs Cup against Toronto in Toronto.

Maybe he could invite Trader Mo on a road trip to Nicaragua. You know, let Mo get some scouting in down there so he can fill those 29 international slots.


Sweet? Braz should thank Mo Johnston for the paycheque he got last year. Braz basically should have given the money back for how badly he played...

If Mo scouts in Nicaragua he'd surely find better players than Adam Braz!

I'm really glad the Impact still have him, because he was always good for at least one goal against when he played. But pylons are like that ;) I know though, that down in the USL he doesn't get as exposed as often as he did in MLS, so you guys think he's God.


He sure sucked d. against TOFC last game, right?

[Rudi]

Braz played in that game?

[Grizzly]

Braz played 90 in the first game against TFC.

[Trident]

Handled the Marvelous TFC offense well.

[Rudi]

When did TFC get a marvelous offence?

[JayWay]

I'd take Marshall over Braz any day, and Velez everyday except Jewish holidays.

Comparing Braz to Wynne is just foolish.

[Grizzly]

I think TFC should get a decent backline before they start running down players on our backline.

[Rudi]

quote:Originally posted by Grizzly

I think TFC should get a decent backline before they start running down players on our backline.

I didn't realise the team itself was running down Montreal's backline.

[SeanKeay]

9 League Games @ home

2 goals let in, 0 losses.

Yea our backlines so suspect at home... can you please come up with some real flaws about our team, rather then throwing out these dumb lines, TFC have alot of flaws with there team. Just use your brain and come up with one.

Tuesday we show the impact what its like to play infront of a hostile crowd. These boys wont know what hit em! Our boys are gonna be up for the game and its going to be a game we can all talk about forever.

http://toronto.fc.mlsnet.com/images/2008/07/14/WkSDnNvH.jpg

[hamiltonfan]

by far the biggest TFC game ever. I can not wait till tomorrow

[Mpenza]

quote:Originally posted by SeanKeay

These boys wont know what hit em! Our boys are gonna be up for the game and its going to be a game we can all talk about forever.

http://toronto.fc.mlsnet.com/images/2008/07/14/WkSDnNvH.jpg


I was wondering why Captain Comic hadn't said anything yet. There he is, folks! [8D]

[Rudi]

quote:Originally posted by Mpenza
I was wondering why Captain Comic hadn't said anything yet. There he is, folks! [8D]

Funny, I thought you had been posting throughout this entire thread...

[Mpenza]

And here is his sidekick in action. Aren't we lucky? :)

[Daniel]

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2978921/2/istockphoto_2978921_toddlers_fighting.jpg

[JayWay]

quote:Originally posted by hamiltonfan

by far the biggest TFC game ever. I can not wait till tomorrow


Hardly. Montreal is insignificant. A semi-pro franchise followed by semi-pro supporters.

[Trident]

quote:Originally posted by JayWay


quote:Originally posted by hamiltonfan

by far the biggest TFC game ever. I can not wait till tomorrow


Hardly. Montreal is insignificant. A semi-pro franchise followed by semi-pro supporters.




Ahhh, I love quoting things like these, so they can't be deleted later.

But make no mistake, this is NOT proof of Torontonian arrogance, people.

:)

[JayWay]

quote:Originally posted by Trident


quote:Originally posted by JayWay


quote:Originally posted by hamiltonfan

by far the biggest TFC game ever. I can not wait till tomorrow


Hardly. Montreal is insignificant. A semi-pro franchise followed by semi-pro supporters.




Ahhh, I love quoting things like these, so they can't be deleted later.

But make no mistake, this is NOT proof of Torontonian arrogance, people.

:)


Of course I'm arrogant. Why wouldn't I be? Our city is so much better than yours.

[Daniel]

quote:Originally posted by JayWay


quote:Originally posted by hamiltonfan

by far the biggest TFC game ever. I can not wait till tomorrow


Hardly. Montreal is insignificant. A semi-pro franchise followed by semi-pro supporters.

Awesome, where do I pick up my paycheck?

[JayWay]

quote:Originally posted by Daniel


quote:Originally posted by JayWay


quote:Originally posted by hamiltonfan

by far the biggest TFC game ever. I can not wait till tomorrow


Hardly. Montreal is insignificant. A semi-pro franchise followed by semi-pro supporters.

Awesome, where do I pick up my paycheck?


The Dufferin Gate :D

[Grizzly]

quote:Originally posted by JayWay


quote:Originally posted by Daniel


quote:Originally posted by JayWay


quote:Originally posted by hamiltonfan

by far the biggest TFC game ever. I can not wait till tomorrow


Hardly. Montreal is insignificant. A semi-pro franchise followed by semi-pro supporters.

Awesome, where do I pick up my paycheck?


The Dufferin Gate :D


Does that mean all the rich professional TFC supporters will be buying us poor semi-professional Impact supporters free beer at the Dufferin Gate? I can't wait!

[hamiltonfan]

Jayway, i no ur just trying to be a little cocky, but dumb comment. Regardless of the team that Toronto is playing, this is the most by far the biggest game for TFC.

[Rudi]

quote:Originally posted by hamiltonfan

Jayway, i no ur just trying to be a little cocky, but dumb comment. Regardless of the team that Toronto is playing, this is the most by far the biggest game for TFC.

I'd say he's doing some decent trash talking.


quote:Originally posted by Trident


quote:Originally posted by JayWay


quote:Originally posted by hamiltonfan

by far the biggest TFC game ever. I can not wait till tomorrow


Hardly. Montreal is insignificant. A semi-pro franchise followed by semi-pro supporters.




Ahhh, I love quoting things like these, so they can't be deleted later.

But make no mistake, this is NOT proof of Torontonian arrogance, people.

:)

Much like everything else, Toronto took Montreal's lead in the arrogance department and made it better.

[Johnnie Monster]

quote:Originally posted by JayWay


quote:Originally posted by hamiltonfan

by far the biggest TFC game ever. I can not wait till tomorrow


Hardly. Montreal is insignificant. A semi-pro franchise followed by semi-pro supporters.




So since Vancouver beat you at home, and TFC could only muster a draw on the return leg, does that mean TFC is even less significant than Montreal?

You and the other plastics need to check the trophy cabinet:

32 years, and sweet eff all.

As much as I hate 'em, I can't wait to see Montreal dodging urine in Nicaragua.

[Rudi]

quote:Originally posted by Johnnie Monster


quote:Originally posted by JayWay


quote:Originally posted by hamiltonfan

by far the biggest TFC game ever. I can not wait till tomorrow


Hardly. Montreal is insignificant. A semi-pro franchise followed by semi-pro supporters.




So since Vancouver beat you at home, and TFC could only muster a draw on the return leg, does that mean TFC is even less significant than Montreal?

You and the other plastics need to check the trophy cabinet:

32 years, and sweet eff all.

As much as I hate 'em, I can't wait to see Montreal dodging urine in Nicaragua.




Plastic is backing another team in the same league simply because your team is out of the competition.

I do love this, though. Some healthy trash talk is fun on the day before a cup final, even if Montreal seems to need the tree-huggers' help in creating any sort of witty banter.

[TFC07]

Ohhhhhh Toronto,
I'm going crazy!
Oh yes it's true!
Something has come over me,
and I don't know what to do,
my life is not worth living if I cannot sing for you!
Ohhhhhh Toronto!

[CanadaTFC]

Vancouver never won against us.

[CanadaTFC]

quote:Originally posted by TFC07

Ohhhhhh Toronto,
I'm going crazy!
Oh yes it's true!
Something has come over me,
and I don't know what to do,
my life is not worth living if I cannot sing for you!
Ohhhhhh Toronto!


Great, now the Limp Act are going to steal that too. :([:p]:D

[Rudi]

quote:Originally posted by CanadaTFC

Vancouver never won against us.

LOL there's no need to lie.

[CanadaLFC]

meh who cares what Vancouver has done. We(TFC) are still in the competition and they are not. Other than that it should be an intense game tomorrow, cant wait. I am in 111 !!!

[JayWay]

quote:Originally posted by Johnnie Monster


quote:Originally posted by JayWay


quote:Originally posted by hamiltonfan

by far the biggest TFC game ever. I can not wait till tomorrow


Hardly. Montreal is insignificant. A semi-pro franchise followed by semi-pro supporters.




So since Vancouver beat you at home, and TFC could only muster a draw on the return leg, does that mean TFC is even less significant than Montreal?

You and the other plastics need to check the trophy cabinet:

32 years, and sweet eff all.

As much as I hate 'em, I can't wait to see Montreal dodging urine in Nicaragua.





Sample size and chance have a funny way of obscuring reality.

You USLers punched above your weight and got your one day in the sun. I'm sure you'll commemorate the day for years to come.

But that's over now. It's time for big brother to take out the trash and claim the trophy that is rightfully ours... but not before removing the stench of second-hand smoke and tar. Three years in Montreal will do that.


quote:
32 years, and sweet eff all.


Are you talking about our trophy cabinet or your love life?

[TFC07]

Quebec and Soccer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVS5AgwxvCA

LMAO!

[Grizzly]

Yawn. I hope you guys are more exciting tomorrow.

[Johnnie Monster]

The lame insults coming out of Toronto is rather comical. As for Vancouver's "day in the sun", seriously guys... give your heads a shake. You're not that big a deal.

The great thing about being in Vancouver is that we've had PLENTY of glory days to cheer about. Things will only get better once we move into your league and routinely dominate you like the gimp from Pulp Fiction.

In the past year or so we've got a combined 2 wins & 2 draws v. Toronto and LA this past year. No losses to MLS.

Going back a littel further, we've also beat Sunderland, and we've beat Cardiff City FC, both of which were fielding damn-near A-squads (missing a starter, two tops). And don't go spouting any crap about "unfit preseasoned UK glamour matches" - those boys came to play, and play they did.

But of all the teams mentioned here, I would still put Montreal at the top as the one team that is hardest to beat. I have no idea why TFC fans take such pride in crowing about Vancouver's elimination from the CL, because their team had bugger all to do with it. Montreal did the dirty work for them.

Montreal is tough as hell to play against, and if TFC goes in cocky, they are going to lose.

[Rudi]

quote:Originally posted by Johnnie Monster

The lame insults coming out of Toronto is rather comical. As for Vancouver's "day in the sun", seriously guys... give your heads a shake. You're not that big a deal.

The great thing about being in Vancouver is that we've had PLENTY of glory days to cheer about. Things will only get better once we move into your league and routinely dominate you like the gimp from Pulp Fiction.

In the past year or so we've got a combined 2 wins & 2 draws v. Toronto and LA this past year. No losses to MLS.

Going back a littel further, we've also beat Sunderland, and we've beat Cardiff City FC, both of which were fielding damn-near A-squads (missing a starter, two tops). And don't go spouting any crap about "unfit preseasoned UK glamour matches" - those boys came to play, and play they did.

But of all the teams mentioned here, I would still put Montreal at the top as the one team that is hardest to beat. I have no idea why TFC fans take such pride in crowing about Vancouver's elimination from the CL, because their team had bugger all to do with it. Montreal did the dirty work for them.

Montreal is tough as hell to play against, and if TFC goes in cocky, they are going to lose.


I can't speak for the others, but I wasn't "crowing" about Vancouver being out, but rather I was pointing out that it's incredibly "plastic" (there's that word again) to cheer for a side within the same league because you guys are out.

You talk about how hard it is to beat Montreal, and I agree with you. But you keep forgetting or omitting the fact that we did beat Montreal already this year, on the road where TFC has been absolute crap.

And playing down the fact that TFC is incredibly tough to beat at home simply because Vancouver did so is a fool's game. Far better sides than the Whitecaps have come into BMO Field and been unable to get a result. yes, you guys were better on the day, but there is no guarantee that Montreal will be so fortunate.

I had every intention of keeping my posts in this thread outside of the realm of trash talk, but seeing the incredible cockiness of some of the Montreal (and elsewhere) posters talking as if the Impact has already won the trophy has drawn me in.

I know for a fact that Montreal will be a formidable challenge. I wouldn't be nearly as excited for tomorrow's game if I knew that we were just going to steamroll our way to victory tomorrow.

That said, I am quietly confident that TFC can pull off the required victory tomorrow.

[TFC07]

Speaking of plastic fans, check this video out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G-dBSfIe-s

Nice to see Vancouver Southsiders and Ultras Montreal singing together in the bar about Toronto. Cute, eh? :D

[Mpenza]

quote:Originally posted by JayWay


quote:Originally posted by hamiltonfan

by far the biggest TFC game ever. I can not wait till tomorrow


Hardly. Montreal is insignificant. A semi-pro franchise followed by semi-pro supporters.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AduWZk_Kxsw

[Rudi]

quote:Originally posted by Mpenza


quote:Originally posted by JayWay


quote:Originally posted by hamiltonfan

by far the biggest TFC game ever. I can not wait till tomorrow


Hardly. Montreal is insignificant. A semi-pro franchise followed by semi-pro supporters.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AduWZk_Kxsw

Wow, great comeback. A commercial by a bank that had the foresight and wherewithal to leave Montreal for greener pastures years ago.

You guys should all be so lucky.

[loyola]

quote:Originally posted by TFC07

Speaking of plastic fans, check this video out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G-dBSfIe-s

Nice to see Vancouver Southsiders and Ultras Montreal singing together in the bar about Toronto. Cute, eh? :D


Must be the most pathetic video I've ever seen...

[Mpenza]

quote:Originally posted by Rudi


quote:Originally posted by Mpenza


quote:Originally posted by JayWay


quote:Originally posted by hamiltonfan

by far the biggest TFC game ever. I can not wait till tomorrow


Hardly. Montreal is insignificant. A semi-pro franchise followed by semi-pro supporters.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AduWZk_Kxsw

Wow, great comeback. A commercial by a bank that had the foresight and wherewithal to leave Montreal for greener pastures years ago.

You guys should all be so lucky.


I was merely illustrating what a pro supporter is. :)
Maybe I should've used pics of the Carlsberg U-Sector TFC Fan Club.

[Mpenza]

quote:Originally posted by loyola


quote:Originally posted by TFC07

Speaking of plastic fans, check this video out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G-dBSfIe-s

Nice to see Vancouver Southsiders and Ultras Montreal singing together in the bar about Toronto. Cute, eh? :D


Must be the most pathetic video I've ever seen...


Don't you have something clever to say about the ever so intelligent anti-quebec and anti-montreal comments you can see on this forum or you're just stuck on a stupid video that was made just for a laugh?

[loyola]

quote:Originally posted by Mpenza


quote:Originally posted by loyola


quote:Originally posted by TFC07

Speaking of plastic fans, check this video out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G-dBSfIe-s

Nice to see Vancouver Southsiders and Ultras Montreal singing together in the bar about Toronto. Cute, eh? :D


Must be the most pathetic video I've ever seen...


Don't you have something clever to say about the ever so intelligent anti-quebec and anti-montreal comments you can see on this forum or you're just stuck on a stupid video that was made just for a laugh?


I've read plenty of your anti-Toronto and anti-ROC stuff Mpenza....it's the same thing going on both sides...why should I bother? There's nothing anti-Quebec in this thread apart from a satire from THH22M which is the equivalent of saying that Stephen Colbert is anti-Canada....

If the video was made just for fun I think I can safely say that most comments on this thread were made just for fun as well, just good old trash talking.

[Rudi]

quote:Originally posted by Mpenza

I was merely illustrating what a pro supporter is. :)
Maybe I should've used pics of the Carlsberg U-Sector TFC Fan Club.

I'd love to see them.

While you're at it, you can buy a Carlsberg and donate to the very 'fan club' that runs this very board for you to spout more of your unsubstantiated crap.


quote:Originally posted by loyola

If the video was made just for fun I think I can safely say that most comments on this thread were made just for fun as well, just good old trash talking.
See, loyola gets it.

[hottoddy7]

So cbc.ca is the only option for watching this? 7:30 EST?

[Daniel]

quote:Originally posted by hottoddy7

So cbc.ca is the only option for watching this? 7:30 EST?


Bold too, no?

[SeanKeay]

And in Ontario, you can watch it on TLN... i assume tln is only in ontario and to lazy to do research

[Mr.Impact]

quote:Originally posted by Grizzly


quote:Originally posted by JayWay


quote:Originally posted by Daniel


quote:Originally posted by JayWay


quote:Originally posted by hamiltonfan

by far the biggest TFC game ever. I can not wait till tomorrow


Hardly. Montreal is insignificant. A semi-pro franchise followed by semi-pro supporters.

Awesome, where do I pick up my paycheck?


The Dufferin Gate :D


Does that mean all the rich professional TFC supporters will be buying us poor semi-professional Impact supporters free beer at the Dufferin Gate? I can't wait!


Dufferin Gate ??? didn't know TFC supporters hung out at a GAY bar. No wonder red is the preffered colour.:D

[SeanKeay]

Huh?

[Johnnie Monster]

quote:Originally posted by Rudi


I can't speak for the others, but I wasn't "crowing" about Vancouver being out, but rather I was pointing out that it's incredibly "plastic" (there's that word again) to cheer for a side within the same league because you guys are out.


And this is what some of the guys in Toronto don't get. We're not cheering for Montreal to win. We're cheering for Toronto to lose.

All we've heard since the inception of the CL is this nonsense that TFC was going to demolish the Canadian USL clubs like Barcelona taking on a middle school from Inuvik....

The media has said it, and even Toronto's players have said it...

So far your best result in three games is one victory by a single goal. That's an embarassment for MLS' boosters as far as I'm concerned.

Does MLS have more credibility as a league than USL? Sure, I'll not argue that one bit.

But this myth about there being a massive talent gap between the leagues is crap. In reality, the real difference is the two or three top players on each MLS side. The low and middle ground is virtually the same. Statistically speaking, the average USL player is paid better than his MLS equivalent.

As for plastic this, plastic that... our boys have been singing their guts out since the 86ers days and right through from APSL to USL... that's 'round about the same time you lot were ignoring the Lynx and sitting at home watching Serie A, only to magically appear years later en masse at the sight of a tax-funded rubber pitch and a uni with a frickin' leaf on it.

http://www.chromecow.com/wp-content/graphics/DaD/foosball.jpg

[Rudi]

quote:Originally posted by Mr.Impact

Dufferin Gate ??? didn't know TFC supporters hung out at a GAY bar. No wonder red is the preffered colour.:D

Now we're into gay-smack? Terrible.

The Dufferin Gate is many things. It's a **** hole. It's in a terrible part of town. It sometimes serves as a front for some unsavoury types in the area. But a gay bar, it ain't.

Just because you may have 'paid' for some drugs there once, doesn't make the bar a gay one.

As for red, good call on relating it to some pansy colour. I suppose the entire nation is a bunch of ponces, too.

[Grizzly]

quote:Originally posted by Rudi


quote:Originally posted by Johnnie Monster

The lame insults coming out of Toronto is rather comical. As for Vancouver's "day in the sun", seriously guys... give your heads a shake. You're not that big a deal.

The great thing about being in Vancouver is that we've had PLENTY of glory days to cheer about. Things will only get better once we move into your league and routinely dominate you like the gimp from Pulp Fiction.

In the past year or so we've got a combined 2 wins & 2 draws v. Toronto and LA this past year. No losses to MLS.

Going back a littel further, we've also beat Sunderland, and we've beat Cardiff City FC, both of which were fielding damn-near A-squads (missing a starter, two tops). And don't go spouting any crap about "unfit preseasoned UK glamour matches" - those boys came to play, and play they did.

But of all the teams mentioned here, I would still put Montreal at the top as the one team that is hardest to beat. I have no idea why TFC fans take such pride in crowing about Vancouver's elimination from the CL, because their team had bugger all to do with it. Montreal did the dirty work for them.

Montreal is tough as hell to play against, and if TFC goes in cocky, they are going to lose.


I can't speak for the others, but I wasn't "crowing" about Vancouver being out, but rather I was pointing out that it's incredibly "plastic" (there's that word again) to cheer for a side within the same league because you guys are out.

You talk about how hard it is to beat Montreal, and I agree with you. But you keep forgetting or omitting the fact that we did beat Montreal already this year, on the road where TFC has been absolute crap.

And playing down the fact that TFC is incredibly tough to beat at home simply because Vancouver did so is a fool's game. Far better sides than the Whitecaps have come into BMO Field and been unable to get a result. yes, you guys were better on the day, but there is no guarantee that Montreal will be so fortunate.

I had every intention of keeping my posts in this thread outside of the realm of trash talk, but seeing the incredible cockiness of some of the Montreal (and elsewhere) posters talking as if the Impact has already won the trophy has drawn me in.

I know for a fact that Montreal will be a formidable challenge. I wouldn't be nearly as excited for tomorrow's game if I knew that we were just going to steamroll our way to victory tomorrow.

That said, I am quietly confident that TFC can pull off the required victory tomorrow.


I don't see what is plastic about preferring some teams to others when your team is out. When my team is eliminated in a competition it doesn't mean I or most other people don't have preferrences among the remaining teams. Just because the Vancouver guys prefer the Impact to TFC doesn't mean they are becoming Impact supporters. If TFC manages to win tomorrow I might even hope for them against Real Esteli if you guys are nice to me!;)

I agree with Loyola that must of this stuff is just trash talk though I don't see why he is so critical of the video yet at the same time so tolerant of the TFC trash talk. It would seem that one should view both as equally good or bad. Maybe Loyola is a closet Torontonian.:( I definitely don't agree with Rudi that the Montreal fans are the ones doing the majority of overconfident trash talking in the thread.

At least we don't have long to wait to see who's fans will get the prize. The right to be the arrogant trash talkers for the next year on the forum!:D

[Rudi]

quote:Originally posted by Johnnie Monster

As for plastic this, plastic that... our boys have been singing their guts out since the 86ers days and right through from APSL to USL... that's 'round about the same time you lot were ignoring the Lynx and sitting at home watching Serie A, only to magically appear years later en masse at the sight of a tax-funded rubber pitch and a uni with a frickin' leaf on it.

Yawn.

And whom do you think is going to fill BC Place when you guys get an MLS side? The 5000 or so (on a good night, like when TFC comes to town) that inhabit Swangard every other week?

No, it's going to be Vancouver's equivalent of the "plastic" fans you are so quick to slag off here in Toronto, the ones currently ignoring the Caps and sitting at home watching EPL. They are also going to magically appear years later en masse at the sight of a tax-funded rubber pitch (because you know they won't be going au naturel in the big white dome).

Funny how that works.

When that day comes, I hope you'll be as outspoken about the 'plastics' as you are now.

[Rudi]

quote:Originally posted by Grizzly

I definitely don't agree with Rudi that the Montreal fans are the ones doing the majority of overconfident trash talking in the thread.

No, you're not, that's us.

But you were. That's why our guys jumped into this thread.

[Mr.Impact]

quote:Originally posted by Rudi


quote:Originally posted by Mr.Impact

Dufferin Gate ??? didn't know TFC supporters hung out at a GAY bar. No wonder red is the preffered colour.:D

Now we're into gay-smack? Terrible.

The Dufferin Gate is many things. It's a **** hole. It's in a terrible part of town. It sometimes serves as a front for some unsavoury types in the area. But a gay bar, it ain't.

Just because you may have 'paid' for some drugs there once, doesn't make the bar a gay one.

As for red, good call on relating it to some pansy colour. I suppose the entire nation is a bunch of ponces, too.


Why would I wanna buy drugs in a gay bar, with gay tfc supporters who use gay words like unsavoury. How about the red sausage you swallowed last night was that savoury?

Who said anything about the nation I was reffering to colour worn by TFC supporters to match their lipstick.

[Mr.Impact]

Here is an article about what Mo Johnson (from Scotland) is trying to build in Toronto. Seems to me he's done an excellent job.

http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/edinburgh/Elevenaside-debut-for-gay-football.3687809.jp

[Rudi]

quote:Originally posted by Mr.Impact


quote:Originally posted by Rudi


quote:Originally posted by Mr.Impact

Dufferin Gate ??? didn't know TFC supporters hung out at a GAY bar. No wonder red is the preffered colour.:D

Now we're into gay-smack? Terrible.

The Dufferin Gate is many things. It's a **** hole. It's in a terrible part of town. It sometimes serves as a front for some unsavoury types in the area. But a gay bar, it ain't.

Just because you may have 'paid' for some drugs there once, doesn't make the bar a gay one.

As for red, good call on relating it to some pansy colour. I suppose the entire nation is a bunch of ponces, too.


Why would I wanna buy drugs in a gay bar, with gay tfc supporters who use gay words like unsavoury. How about the red sausage you swallowed last night was that savoury?

Who said anything about the nation I was reffering to colour worn by TFC supporters to match their lipstick.

Homophobia aside, you're not very witty.

Pardon me for using such tough-to-understand words like "unsavoury", next time I'll dumb it down for you and add some anti-gay rhetoric.

At least the other guys in this thread don't have to stoop to fourth grade 'humour' to try to get their points across. You're an embarrassment.

I await your gay-filled retort.

[Grizzly]

quote:Originally posted by Rudi


quote:Originally posted by Grizzly

I definitely don't agree with Rudi that the Montreal fans are the ones doing the majority of overconfident trash talking in the thread.

No, you're not, that's us.

But you were. That's why our guys jumped into this thread.


Not that it really matters but how were we the ones who started the trash talking in this thread. The first trash comment is themodelcitizen's talk about whether TFC has a trophy case. I don't see anywhere in the thread where the Montreal fans are doing the majority of trash talking. That being said, Mr. Impact's recent comments are pretty stupid and he should stop posting in this manner, especially since I haven't seen him on the list of those going to the game. It is those who are going to the game who are going to have to take the heat for whatever trash talking is done so they should be the only ones doing any trash talking. If you are going to be watching the game in the comfort of your home, don't start posting s-hit on the internet to piss off the opposition supporters.

[Mr.Impact]

quote:Originally posted by Rudi


quote:Originally posted by Mr.Impact


quote:Originally posted by Rudi


quote:Originally posted by Mr.Impact

Dufferin Gate ??? didn't know TFC supporters hung out at a GAY bar. No wonder red is the preffered colour.:D

Now we're into gay-smack? Terrible.

The Dufferin Gate is many things. It's a **** hole. It's in a terrible part of town. It sometimes serves as a front for some unsavoury types in the area. But a gay bar, it ain't.

Just because you may have 'paid' for some drugs there once, doesn't make the bar a gay one.

As for red, good call on relating it to some pansy colour. I suppose the entire nation is a bunch of ponces, too.


Why would I wanna buy drugs in a gay bar, with gay tfc supporters who use gay words like unsavoury. How about the red sausage you swallowed last night was that savoury?

Who said anything about the nation I was reffering to colour worn by TFC supporters to match their lipstick.

Homophobia aside, you're not very witty.

Pardon me for using such tough-to-understand words like "unsavoury", next time I'll dumb it down for you and add some anti-gay rhetoric.

At least the other guys in this thread don't have to stoop to fourth grade 'humour' to try to get their points across. You're an embarrassment.

I await your gay-filled retort.


The only person who should be embarressed is your Dad. Must have been quite a sight when he caught you coming out of the closet with his red TFC shirt. You were probably so upset you threw red streamers at him, and missed.

[Grizzly]

I'll say it once again Mr. Impact: Shut the F-uck Up!

[Mr.Impact]

quote:Originally posted by Grizzly


quote:Originally posted by Rudi


quote:Originally posted by Grizzly

I definitely don't agree with Rudi that the Montreal fans are the ones doing the majority of overconfident trash talking in the thread.

No, you're not, that's us.

But you were. That's why our guys jumped into this thread.


Not that it really matters but how were we the ones who started the trash talking in this thread. The first trash comment is themodelcitizen's talk about whether TFC has a trophy case. I don't see anywhere in the thread where the Montreal fans are doing the majority of trash talking. That being said, Mr. Impact's recent comments are pretty stupid and he should stop posting in this manner, especially since I haven't seen him on the list of those going to the game. It is those who are going to the game who are going to have to take the heat for whatever trash talking is done so they should be the only ones doing any trash talking. If you are going to be watching the game in the comfort of your home, don't start posting s-hit on the internet to piss off the opposition supporters.



Hey Grizz, it takes two too Tango. Relax its only trash talking no need to be afraid. Im not the one that started it, in the first place. Just scroll up, it seems that its only TFC that could trash talk, if someone from Montreal gives as good has he gets, well all of a sudden thats not ok.

Don't worry you have nothing to worry about, worst case scenario you get hit with a streamer. Just don't let them take you to the Dufferin Gate. It could get dicey if you drop a quarter.

[CanadaTFC]

For being from Montreal, you're really one to talk about gays:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Outgames

http://outletics.com/images/world_outgames_logo.jpg

[Mr.Impact]

quote:Originally posted by CanadaTFC

For being from Montreal, you're really one to talk about gays:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Outgames

http://outletics.com/images/world_outgames_logo.jpg



What you didn't know is that the team representing Canada in Soccer was from Toronto, and they won a gold metal.

[CanadaTFC]

Why thank you, you just reinforce the fact that Toronto is better.

[TFC07]

Tomorrow is going to be a fun day!

[Daniel]

http://goatmilk.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/mushroom-cloud1.jpg

Everyone in this thread is looking retarded right about now. Chill out, go to the game and keep off the boards. Smack talk is for kids.

[TFC07]

Get used to it especially if you guys end up in MLS.

[Grizzly]

quote:Originally posted by Mr.Impact
Hey Grizz, it takes two too Tango. Relax its only trash talking no need to be afraid. Im not the one that started it, in the first place. Just scroll up, it seems that its only TFC that could trash talk, if someone from Montreal gives as good has he gets, well all of a sudden thats not ok.

Don't worry you have nothing to worry about, worst case scenario you get hit with a streamer. Just don't let them take you to the Dufferin Gate. It could get dicey if you drop a quarter.


You are not giving as good as you get, you are posting stupid offensive stuff that makes you (and the Impact fans by association) look ignorant. Yes some TFC fans posted some stupid stuff but none of it crossed the line like yours did. I am not particularly worried about tomorrow myself but it should be a matter of principle that if you are not going to a match where you may have to face the consequences of what you are saying, it is an act of cowardice to post stuff that may cause others problems.

[Seb of Mtl]

why do toronto males always make reference to gays in their insults towards montrealers?? I think its because they find montreal males so much hotter than the ones in toronto!! :) Anyways, predition for tomorrow night? 1-1 and the Impact FC are going to nica!

[TFC07]

quote:Originally posted by Seb of Mtl

why do toronto males always make reference to gays in their insults towards montrealers?? I think its because they find montreal males so much hotter than the ones in toronto!! :) Anyways, predition for tomorrow night? 1-1 and the Impact FC are going to nica!


You got it mixed up, bro. It is MTL males (especially Mr.Impact) making gay jokes here.

[Mr.Impact]

quote:Originally posted by Grizzly


quote:Originally posted by Mr.Impact
Hey Grizz, it takes two too Tango. Relax its only trash talking no need to be afraid. Im not the one that started it, in the first place. Just scroll up, it seems that its only TFC that could trash talk, if someone from Montreal gives as good has he gets, well all of a sudden thats not ok.

Don't worry you have nothing to worry about, worst case scenario you get hit with a streamer. Just don't let them take you to the Dufferin Gate. It could get dicey if you drop a quarter.


You are not giving as good as you get, you are posting stupid offensive stuff that makes you (and the Impact fans by association) look ignorant. Yes some TFC fans posted some stupid stuff but none of it crossed the line like yours did. I am not particularly worried about tomorrow myself but it should be a matter of principle that if you are not going to a match where you may have to face the consequences of what you are saying, it is an act of cowardice to post stuff that may cause others problems.



You know what F-you too !!! Who made you the authority, and the spokesman for Montreal Impact supporters? FYI Im going to the game tomorrow...Im all wet about their fans.

[Grizzly]

I am not the spokesman for Impact fans or even the Ultras. I doubt you will find too many of either group though who agree with what you posted whether or not it was just trash talk. If you are actually going to the match, are you on the bus tomorrow?

[Massive Attack]

Just to bring this thread back on topic, here is the Globe and Mail preview of tomorrow's game:

http://tinyurl.com/5ex3kx

Just a reminder, this game is live on CBC Bold, TLN and FSC. It is tape-delayed on CBC and the next day on Gol TV.

[JayWay]

quote:Originally posted by Mr.Impact


quote:Originally posted by CanadaTFC

For being from Montreal, you're really one to talk about gays:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Outgames

http://outletics.com/images/world_outgames_logo.jpg



What you didn't know is that the team representing Canada in Soccer was from Toronto, and they won a gold metal.


Um... burn?

[Cheeta]

quote:Originally posted by Massive Attack

Just to bring this thread back on topic, here is the Globe and Mail preview of tomorrow's game:

http://tinyurl.com/5ex3kx

Just a reminder, this game is live on CBC Bold, TLN and FSC. It is tape-delayed on CBC and the next day on Gol TV.


What?

FSC as in Fox Soccer Channel? Or FSWC as in Fox Sports World Canada?

I'm a busy cat these days but why haven't I heard of this?

[Gian-Luca]

Gol TV is also replaying all the previous games (except presumably for the non-televised one) in this tourney tomorrow prior to the 7pm start time for the game. I don't know how many people will be around to watch the repeats, but I still think that's a very cool thing to do in the lead-up to the final game.

[Calgary Boomer]

7pm eastern CBC Bold (channel 96)

This one game is going to lay the groundwork for what should be a dandy (and judging by some of the previous posts that's the right word)

[Jeffery S.]

Anyone suggest a for sure bar-pub in Vancouver that could have a bit of ambience for this one?

I have no fave in spite of being a Whitecaps supporter, I agree that it is nice to knock down TFC, but also think it is time for a change in the V-Cup ownership. And that Toronto will represent us better in the Concacaf competition, Mtl will end up over their heads, sorry to say.

Makes no sense to have a chip on your shoulder about TFC and then hope your city gets an MLS franchise.

[Massive Attack]

quote:Originally posted by Cheeta


quote:Originally posted by Massive Attack

Just to bring this thread back on topic, here is the Globe and Mail preview of tomorrow's game:

http://tinyurl.com/5ex3kx

Just a reminder, this game is live on CBC Bold, TLN and FSC. It is tape-delayed on CBC and the next day on Gol TV.


What?

FSC as in Fox Soccer Channel? Or FSWC as in Fox Sports World Canada?

I'm a busy cat these days but why haven't I heard of this?


During the Montreal v Miami broadcast last Friday they mentioned a number of times that TFC v Montreal would be on FSC (the American version only).

FSWC can't show it because the Canadian rights are spoken for.

[Winnipeg Fury]

Can't wait to watch this match. Cheeta and I will be at the Boston Pizza at St Annes & Bishop Grandin at 6PM. All interested parties welcome to join us.

I'm going on record as saying that TFC will win The Voyageurs Cup, despite their poor play of late.

This is the biggest game in TFC's short history, and I think all their players will be coming out to play. Hopefully they play more than a few Canadians.

I'm going out on a limb with this prediction: TFC 2- 0 Montreal

[michaeltfc91]

^^^^
I am praying you are right...
I'm going to be at the game. what's happening after the game if we win? Any big parties?

[Sam]

Enjoyed the first half, thought Toronto was thebetter team but they need to get something from those free-kicks, they had 3 within 24 yards and all of them hit the wall

[Stuart]

You should've heard what wonderful things Brenda Irving had to say about the Voyageurs Cup at the start of the telecast!!
No really, you should've heard what she had to say......because I didn't.
Stupid FRIGGIN CBC!!
Maybe you should check your audio before you go on air[:I][V]

[Vancouversoccerman]

Bravo Montreal!

1-1 with a gutsy comeback

[Sam]

Faaaack... cunningham can't finish a chance to save his life, what a f*cking sitter

[Vancouversoccerman]

Nice move CBC...sign off before the Voyageur Cup presentation.

[Sam]

The team with 5 Canadians on their starting XI won the first Canadian championship over the team starting 2, the only positive of this match, is maybe Toronto will wake up and start playing Canadians, somehow I doubt it.

[Tuscan]

That is exactly what I yelled at my comp screen for!!!:(:(:(

What the hell is wrong with them?! Don't even bother to show the awarding of the cup!:( That right pisses me off, I hope some of you decide like I am to send CBC an angry email about this...

[LUFC]

Champions!!!!!!! Well Done Boys!!! Allez L'Impact!!!!

[Trident]

EST QUE JAI RAISON?
(OUI T'AS RAISON!)
MONTREAL, MONTREAL, MONTREAL CHAMPIONS!

[Trident]

WHY DID YOU SIGN OFF BEFORE THE PRESENTATION, I WANT TO SEE MY BOYS LIFT THE CUP.

[LUFC]

^ Me too! Oh well! CHAMPIONS FOR A 7TH YEAR IN A ROW!!!

[Calgary Boomer]

Because CBC is pouting that the "Superior Opposition" as that dumb pompous twat Nigel Reid put it, is NOT THE BEST TEAM IN CANADA.

All I can say is SUCKERS!

[Tuscan]

Well, if anyone has video of the cup presentation, please up it ASAP as it would certainly be nice to see the cup go to the deserving side (sorry all you TFC supporters, but Montreal overall was the best side in the entire tourny). Unfortunately I have never seen footage of a team receiving the cup, and as this tournament was my first exposure to it's use, I'm disappointed to have been neglected the opportunity. It's just nice to see a cup presentation at the end of a very entertaining game, no matter what competition it is.

Angry email sent, but somehow I doubt it'll make a difference unless a sh*tload gets sent to them.

[Jeffery S.]

Congrats to both teams for giving us a good match, with some decent play and tension from start to finish.

I ended up on the side of Montreal as the game progressed for a number of reasons. The ref favoured TFC blatantly, four yellows for one semi-hard foul, Batti on the first one. The Placentino yellow was not even a foul, or a touch, it was bogus. TFC had a homer ref and that pissed me off.

Montreal played at 100%, TFC at 80. The entire tournament. Or at least that is what it felt like, they never dominated, not even for a solid half hour stretch in the entire tournament. So you put Canadians on the field and they understand why it is important and play their guts out. TFC were not playing like mercenaries, I wouldn't say that, but it seemed they were coasting a lot of the time.

Hey TFC fans: you guys have a lot of credit, you are the toast of MLS, so how about using some of that pull to give MLSE an earful, because you were a bit disgraceful in spite of playing for the win in the second half. I mean, if that is all the hired guns can give you I'd rather see the Canucks who really care on the pitch. So let's hear you speak out, all that noise and cheery ambience, what the hell is it for? What is the fundamental difference between you and the soccer moms if you are so passive up against your own team's own passivity playing at home for the Canadian championship? Any balls out there?

I am just trying to provoke a bit, I admit, because Impact played with brains and balls and you guys won't represent us this September in Concacaf, which I really think you should be doing.

[Trident]

Watch out though, our "league blows".

[MikeD]

As a neutral watching from Halifax, I was cheering for TFC because I wanted the best team to represent Canada in the CL.

That being said, it brought a smile to my face to see Montreal celebrating their victory. :) They were really happy to have won the Voyageurs Cup. I thought Nevio Pizzolitto played a hell of a game (has me wondering if he should get another look from the national team).

Good luck to Montreal against Nicaragua. I hope they make it to the group stages, and I'm already looking forward to next year's tournament.

[Winnipeg Fury]

I though TFC would finally come to play, but even in the big match at home, their players choked.

Cunningham is crap. I have been saying it for months. Two minutes left, six inches from goal, with the ball on his right foot, and the wanker somehow shanks it. And he's making $350,000 ! How many times to do we have to watch this replay ?!

As a Canadian fan, I can only be happy that the team that had minimal Canadian involvement did not win. Too bad, Montreal having won it the past six times, I was ready for a new champion. I wanted TFC to win, just for change sake. But how could anyone cheer for a team that has 2 Canadians on the field (including subs), every match. The Canadians on all three teams played their hearts out every match and that is why TFC lost, despite the bigger budget. Even TFC's one victory (ONE VICTORY!), was not indicative of the play and a draw would have better represented the match.

Jeffrey is right, and it's something I have suggested before. TFC fans should stop acting like soccer-moms and start demanding some quality Canadian content.

[Blue and White Army]

USL! (clap clap clap) USL! (clap clap clap)

Oh, how that chant came back to bite Toronto in the ass. [:o)]

You can take Toronto out of USL, but you can't take the USL out of Toronto. :D

[RJB]

quote:Originally posted by MikeD

As a neutral watching from Halifax, I was cheering for TFC because I wanted the best team to represent Canada in the CL.



Montreal is the best team. They proved it over the course of the Voyageurs Cup. That was the intention, and that was the result.

[Winnipeg Fury]

quote:Originally posted by RJB


quote:Originally posted by MikeD

As a neutral watching from Halifax, I was cheering for TFC because I wanted the best team to represent Canada in the CL.



Montreal is the best team. They proved it over the course of the Voyageurs Cup. That was the intention, and that was the result.



Without a doubt.

[Seb of Mtl]

actually, the term is that the USL sucks according to Cunningham ( i believe); i think it comes down to the fact that the impact did what they had to do to walk away with the championship and toronto couldnt take advantage of their chances. I am honestly not impressed with Toronto FC cuz they did the trash talking, had preferential treatment from the officials, were at home and had the best chances. Furthermore, i dont wanna generalize but i found that it was really classless that the fans booed braz while he was injured while there were many dives by the TFC players. that being said, now lets see what the can do against the Nicaragua team.

[Cheeta]

Ah ha ha.

Good for Montreal. Wonderful goal to draw level. Not the best marking but beautiful header there. That was sharp.

Damn. I hope they show the award ceremony afterwards. Pretty sure the stadium was empty by that point but that makes the presentation all the more sweeter for the visiting team.


WELL DONE IMPACT!

WHO'S GOT THE CUP?
WE GOT THE CUP!
WHO'S GOT THE CUP?
WE GOT THE CUP!

[LUFC]

quote:Originally posted by Seb of Mtl

actually, the term is that the USL sucks according to Cunningham ( i believe); i think it comes down to the fact that the impact did what they had to do to walk away with the championship and toronto couldnt take advantage of their chances. I am honestly not impressed with Toronto FC cuz they did the trash talking, had preferential treatment from the officials, were at home and had the best chances. Furthermore, i dont wanna generalize but i found that it was really classless that the fans booed braz while he was injured while there were many dives by the TFC players. that being said, now lets see what the can do against the Nicaragua team.


Actually it was Tyronne Marshall.

http://www.tsn.ca/soccer/story/id=244119&lid=sublink01&lpos=headline_main

"We have to come out and establish ourselves and show them we're playing in a higher league and (that the USL First Division) blows."

I wonder what Mr. Marshall thinks about the USL now?[:p]

[jbedard]

That's what append when a "superior" team on the paper do not work, or care less... And what a "normal", second division team can do, when they works for a particular goal...

Congratulations to the Impact!

I'm now waiting for admission to sell those tickets...!

[Seb of Mtl]

thanks jk canada for clearing things up! i remembered seeing the quote

[jimstam]

Greetings,
Having been a Montreal soccer fan for many years..
Yes, WE have soccer history here too, we did not just pop out of knowhere to support soccer.
From
-the Manic days of the early 80s at the Big Owe with 50,000+ fans winning 3-2 vs. New York Cosmos (with my dad & brothers as a kid) & playing indoors at the old Forum to
-the 1983 CPSL (brief) Inter-Montreal who beat Marseille & tied Avellino at Jarry Park to
-the lean Supra days in the Canadian SL [xx(]to
-to being one of 1,500 freezing fans watching Montreal Impact beat Los Angeles Salsa in the semis in 1994 A-League before the bandwagon fans jammed stadium to win cup in top soccer league in North America at the time vs. Colorado Foxes 2-0 to
-bringing my wife two weeks before our wedding to 2004 Final and cup win vs. Seattle Sounders to
- watching Montreal win at the Bank of Montreal field (sorry "BMO" you are from Montreal stop hiding it!) on the internet with my 2 1/2 year-old son (& despite the referee awarding all the calls Toronto's way and adding 5 minutes[?]!) and watching coach Limniatis who is from my neighborhood here rush on the field victorious.
PRICELESS!;)
:):D[8D]

[thedude99]

quote:Originally posted by Winnipeg Fury



Jeffrey is right, and it's something I have suggested before. TFC fans should stop acting like soccer-moms and start demanding some quality Canadian content.



TFC fans are demanding that the club sign a forward who can score. Cunningham is dreadful, Ibrahim is a promising 16 year old, and Dichio is Dichio, he gets the job done, but he is limited at best, and very injury prone.

Tonight I saw the same problem I've seen watching this team play all year - we have no one who can consistently put the ball in the back of the net. Everyone knows that, the fans, the management. That's what they are actively looking for.

[Gian-Luca]

Congrats to the Impact. I didn't think TFC were going to come away with the victory (Winnipeg Fury can act as my witness on this) and unfortunately for me I was right. The only thing I was wrong about is that I thought it would be a 0-0 game rather than 1-1.

The overall winner tonight was Canadian soccer. It was a very exciting game, the atmosphere at BMO was superb and a new Canadian sporting tradition has begun. On top of that, the outcome of this tourney has made Mo Johnston look extremely foolish in his assessment of the Canadian player pool. The fans can continue to make noise about the lack of Canadians on TFC but what we really need is for the media to start asking Mo some hard questions. Surely they must realize now that they've been hoodwinked by Mo and should not continue to take all his comments about the alleged almost-total absence of a Canadian player pool for granted.

As a TFC fan however I am pissed off, but I feel a sort of "righteous anger" given all that has happened on the Canadian content front with TFC. Perhaps for that reason they didn't deserve to represent Canada in an international tourney. I wish the Impact well in the Champions League. Hopefully TFC will take this tourney more seriously next year & not come out flat like they did against Vancouver on Canada Day.

It's not all down to Mo though, Carver has to take much blame for the tactics he adopted. Trying a 16 year old as a target striker and having a game plan of repeatedly getting the ball wide, crossing it in & hoping that the 16 year old will out jump two taller & much more experienced defenders was utter insanity & it cost TFC dearly. And Carver continued insistence of starting Marco Velez is simply inexplicable, he's such a liability back there.

[Trident]

I've seen TO fans **** on Cunningham, that non goal wasn't his fault, give credit to Nevio.

[Stuart]

Photo's Courtesy of the Impact official site:
http://www.impactmontreal.com/PepePhoto/Images/Photo13-1753.jpg
http://www.impactmontreal.com/PepePhoto/Images/Photo14-1784.jpg

[tmcmurph]

As a Caps fan I was cheering for the underdog. I was cheering for the team that eliminated my team strangely enough. Montreal wanted it more and deserved to win it. Overcoming an away game, on an unfamiliar surface, reffing and a hostile atmosphere (rightly so!) in a rivals stadium I can only say well done. The best team won.

Seven, seven, seven, seven, seven, seven, seven, seven, seven, seven, seven, seven, seven, seven, seven, seven, seven, seven, seven, seven, seven, seven, seven, seven, seven, seven, seven.

Just wait till next year! [8D]

[loyola]

Didn't see the game but a BIG CONGRATS to the MTL Impact!!!

Looking forward to watch the Champions League games.

[BrennanFan]

a beautiful day for our game.

The worst day in TFC history. TFC are now officially losers. Our "good" players are horribly over rated. Carver is a one trick pony whose trick went out of style in the 70s. Mo is an absolute fraud.

Congrats Impact, you wanted it more and you got it.

[Trident]

quote:Originally posted by BrennanFan

a beautiful day for our game.

The worst day in TFC history. TFC are now officially losers. Our "good" players are horribly over rated. Carver is a one trick pony whose trick went out of style in the 70s. Mo is an absolute fraud.

Congrats Impact, you wanted it more and you got it.


Classy response. Puts you higher in my book than all the others who say that TFC sucked, and Montreal is lucky blahblah.

I have two things to rag on you for:

1. BrennanFan....BRENNANfan.

2. "Officially" losers. It's only official today.

:):)

Good game.

[CanadaTFC]

At least it was entertaining until the last 5mins

[theaub]

What an embarrassment that was. Toronto looked like a USL D-II team today (and for the past month). Montreal deserves to beat on some hack Nicaragua team now.

[BrennanFan]

quote:Originally posted by Trident


quote:Originally posted by BrennanFan

a beautiful day for our game.

The worst day in TFC history. TFC are now officially losers. Our "good" players are horribly over rated. Carver is a one trick pony whose trick went out of style in the 70s. Mo is an absolute fraud.

Congrats Impact, you wanted it more and you got it.


Classy response. Puts you higher in my book than all the others who say that TFC sucked, and Montreal is lucky blahblah.

I have two things to rag on you for:

1. BrennanFan....BRENNANfan.

2. "Officially" losers. It's only official today.

:):)

Good game.


i think it goes without saying that i was referring to Robert, Guevarra, Edu, Wynne, Velez etc. TFC is a 2 man team, Brennan and Sutton are it.

TFC dont know how to win. how could they lose at home in front of that crowd? HOW??? what humiliation.

[CanadaTFC]

Okay they didn't paly THAT bad. The first half was pretty 50/50 with Montreal having a bit more possesion (i would say. There was a part in the socned half where Toronto kept pressing, with the odd Montreal counter. Hell Toronto even almost won if it weren't for Cunningham. Bvut there was a point where Toronto was giving up possession to easily.

[Gian-Luca]

Post game comments from both teams here:

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Soccer/2008/07/22/6235431-cp.html

[JayWay]

quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S.



Hey TFC fans: you guys have a lot of credit, you are the toast of MLS, so how about using some of that pull to give MLSE an earful, because you were a bit disgraceful in spite of playing for the win in the second half. I mean, if that is all the hired guns can give you I'd rather see the Canucks who really care on the pitch. So let's hear you speak out, all that noise and cheery ambience, what the hell is it for? What is the fundamental difference between you and the soccer moms if you are so passive up against your own team's own passivity playing at home for the Canadian championship? Any balls out there?



Is this an attack or a challenge? I agree with everything you say - it is a disgrace, one made all the more pathetic by the fact that the current regime has consistently discounted Canadian talent. But I'm not sure what you'd have us do up to this point.

As fans, we should - and we will - speak out when the time calls for it, but before tonight there was just no reason. Yes, cracks were showing - on the brink of V-Cup elimination, a slow slide down the MLS table - but putting on some sort of display when we still have a Cup and a playoff position to play for would have been silly and the definition of fickleness.

That was then, though. As of approx. 9:15 EST time, the gloves are off. This team - this club - has a lot to answer for.

Congrats to Montreal.

[MtlSoccerFan]

I'm really happy for the coaching staff of the Impact especially for John and Andrea...being a Montrealer it's always nice to stick it to our neighbors in Toronto. Oh well so much for FC being Canada's team, maybe they should focus on recruiting more Canadians and leaving the imports behind!

[The Beaver]

Congrats to the Impact. Maybe both the Impact and TFC can pull their heads out of the collective arses and turn around their seasons now.

Can't wait till Montreal and Vancouver join MLS!

[The Beaver]

quote:Originally posted by JayWay


quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S.



Hey TFC fans: you guys have a lot of credit, you are the toast of MLS, so how about using some of that pull to give MLSE an earful, because you were a bit disgraceful in spite of playing for the win in the second half. I mean, if that is all the hired guns can give you I'd rather see the Canucks who really care on the pitch. So let's hear you speak out, all that noise and cheery ambience, what the hell is it for? What is the fundamental difference between you and the soccer moms if you are so passive up against your own team's own passivity playing at home for the Canadian championship? Any balls out there?



Is this an attack or a challenge? I agree with everything you say - it is a disgrace, one made all the more pathetic by the fact that the current regime has consistently discounted Canadian talent. But I'm not sure what you'd have us do up to this point.



Short answer: Consider the source; Jeffrey is a complicated chick. He doesn't even live in the country; how can he KNOW how things work here anymore?[V]

[Trident]

I didn't see cunningham great up that scrum, I saw Nevio make an artful back heel on the line.

[JayWay]

quote:Originally posted by Trident

I didn't see cunningham great up that scrum, I saw Nevio make an artful back heel on the line.


Don't think he's ****? Great! Feel free to take him off our hands.

[mattbin]

I'm really happy with the result; congrats to Montreal. What a great game to showcase the two top Canadian teams, too -- and Canadian soccer in general.

Were any Voyageurs able to participate in the trophy presentation? I guess not, if no one's mentioning it; that's a shame. As the guy who presented the trophy to Montreal the first time (and yes, that's a moment I'll never forget), I'm sorry that we're not more involved. On the other hand, it was great to hear the words "Voyageurs Cup" again and again from the commentators.

A pat on the back to everyone who's made this work from those early years on (especially DJT who, if you all will remember, got the ball rolling in the first place). I'm proud of the Voyageurs and what we've all accomplished, and I'm sure everyone else is, too.

[Trident]

I never said I don't think he's ****, it's just you have to give credit where credit was due.


Take him off your hands, I'd rather have Lombardo than him!

[Gian-Luca]

quote:Originally posted by mattbin

Were any Voyageurs able to participate in the trophy presentation?


No. Winnipeg Fury tried to get this organized for this year but they didn't go for it. I am sure he will work on this so that it happens next year.

[JayWay]

quote:Originally posted by Gian-Luca


quote:Originally posted by mattbin

Were any Voyageurs able to participate in the trophy presentation?


No. Winnipeg Fury tried to get this organized for this year but they didn't go for it. I am sure he will work on this so that it happens next year.


John Carver and Mo Johnston should be forced to present the Cup to Mtl. They gave it to them on the field, why not hand it to them on the podium?

[Ivan]

I was at the game - great atmosphere. After the initial disappointment at the loss, I had to stay and clap for the Impact during the Voyageurs Cup presentation. Great sight after all these years of dreaming of this type of competition.

Congrats to the Impact.

[JamboAl]

I'm really pissed off and have been since the game ended. I hate to say this but Mo Johnston OUT and take half those jokers who call themselves professional footballers with you.

As a RPB member, good luck Impact in the Champions League; you deserved the Voyageurs Cup. But wait til next year!!

[TFC07]

Congrats Impact. Funny how a Montreal team is going to rep Canada in CONCACAF. Now watch these separatists mock Canada.

To TFC players, coaching staff and management: Go f*** yourself you piece of s***. Canadian players (I am assuming MTL and Vancouver was fielding mostly Canadian players) are better than your piece of british/west indian/american s*** players. Get more Canadian players because it is obvious they take this tournament seriously and play with passion (must be the hockey mentality) and are overall better players than half the players we have on our team. F*** YOU TFC!

[franx]

One thing I really enjoyed was seeing a team with local coaches and management( and more local players) beat the all mighty brits!!!..why is it that we, in Canada, think that anyone with a british accent knows everything about soccer....we even put a commentator on tv that sounds british so it looks legit....Why can't tfc just look for the best coach-manager out there??...doesn' matter if he's latino or canadian, but with the talent at his disposal, the tfc coach should be able to motivate his team enough to beat the Impact!!

But I'm looking forward to the Impact against bigger clubs in the Champions league!!!..will be fun to see our level!!!

[TFC07]

quote:Originally posted by franx

One thing I really enjoyed was seeing a team with local coaches and management( and more local players) beat the all mighty brits!!!..why is it that we, in Canada, think that anyone with a british accent knows everything about soccer....we even put a commentator on tv that sounds british so it looks legit....Why can't tfc just look for the best coach-manager out there??...doesn' matter if he's latino or canadian, but with the talent at his disposal, the tfc coach should be able to motivate his team enough to beat the Impact!!

But I'm looking forward to the Impact against bigger clubs in the Champions league!!!..will be fun to see our level!!!


Our team is run by a Brit....so we get all these british players and coaches instead of Canadian players and coaches. FYI, I hate British announcer on CBC.

[Calgary Boomer]

quote:Originally posted by Stuart

Photo's Courtesy of the Impact official site:
http://www.impactmontreal.com/PepePhoto/Images/Photo13-1753.jpg
http://www.impactmontreal.com/PepePhoto/Images/Photo14-1784.jpg


It looks like the Montreal Whitecaps. (Donatelli, Matondo, Gjertson, Testo)

I love Nick Desantis in that picture. Let's call him "coat-tails".

[franx]

I find it even a little insulting to use someone with an accent so that it sounds more soccer!!...When I watch the Impact on french cbc, they have this really bad announcer who knows nothing about soccer, but at least, he's not a Paris st germain fan banking on his accent!!

[Trident]

It's only fitting Montreal is the representative for Canada.

And Of course the team from Montreal wins it over the overly British team.

Awesome.

[koivu]

Didn't catch the match as I had my own to play but I can't wait to grab this when a torrent appears. Happy to see MTL come out on top and look forward to seeing them v the Nicaraguan side.

[Jeffery S.]

quote:Originally posted by JayWay


quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S.



Hey TFC fans: you guys have a lot of credit, you are the toast of MLS, so how about using some of that pull to give MLSE an earful, because you were a bit disgraceful in spite of playing for the win in the second half. I mean, if that is all the hired guns can give you I'd rather see the Canucks who really care on the pitch. So let's hear you speak out, all that noise and cheery ambience, what the hell is it for? What is the fundamental difference between you and the soccer moms if you are so passive up against your own team's own passivity playing at home for the Canadian championship? Any balls out there?



Is this an attack or a challenge? I agree with everything you say - it is a disgrace, one made all the more pathetic by the fact that the current regime has consistently discounted Canadian talent. But I'm not sure what you'd have us do up to this point.

As fans, we should - and we will - speak out when the time calls for it, but before tonight there was just no reason. Yes, cracks were showing - on the brink of V-Cup elimination, a slow slide down the MLS table - but putting on some sort of display when we still have a Cup and a playoff position to play for would have been silly and the definition of fickleness.

That was then, though. As of approx. 9:15 EST time, the gloves are off. This team - this club - has a lot to answer for.

Congrats to Montreal.


Deep down JayWay, I was hoping TFC would just put it away with authority, as I really do believe they would have represented us better internationally. A clearcut win an no more arguments, or even the late goal, though by then I had changed my mood on the basis of the previous 85 minutes.

The Cup has a risk, we are the only nation in the entire region risking sending a second tier team to the Concacaf Champions League, everyone else decides qualifiers based on TOP DIVISION RESULTS. Now I am not going to complain cause after all we have been begging years for a Canadian Cup, and the head to head sure has been fun, we don't have a league to choose from< and I agree with Gianluca that you had a fairly well-played, exciting game with a good atmosphere out there (where I watched they did not put the volume on, but you could "see" it).

All I am saying is that it is a bit sickening to see 2 Canucks out there (and Sutton was faulty on the goal, or partially by coming out on a ball he could never reach, and blew another cross m. 55, at his height unacceptable) while the US MLS teams are stacked just because they have this clear idea that the league absolutely must favour the US national program. We are being sucks, maybe only in part, because I agree the team has to win and get decent results, but we are sucks when we see the semi-pro shunned Canucks at Impact and Whitecaps play at the level of these imports, who don't deserve to be on this team.

I hope MLSE gets the friggin message and realizes that a club philosophy is possible, beyond any roster rules, and that philosophy has to have a Canadian bent, more than a pinch or a touch or something token, it has to be there. Tell that to Paul Beirne or whoever you know at the club next time you see them, I intend to email him with my views.

[Richard]

For sure the best team on the day won this one. Shame on TFC.

[Trident]

http://montrealimpact.com/PepePhoto/Images/Photo15-1814.jpg

[Bertuzzi44]

^Great pic!

[Grizzly]

It is 6:30 am and I just arrived home in the city of champions from our road trip 24 hours after leaving. It was an awesome trip, one of the best soccer experiences in my life. Will post more details tomorrow. I am going to bed but will just post this little quote from earlier in the thread.


quote:Originally posted by Grizzly

In the first Canadian Championship game, U-Sector took a seat from Saputo Stadium home to Toronto. Tuesday the Ultras Montreal are travelling to Montreal to take home the Voyageurs Cup to Montreal!!!

[Miche]

so do TFC and Whitecaps supporters now root for Montreal during the Champions League? Or are the majority gonna be bitter and secretly root against them?

[Vancouversoccerman]

I can't speak for anyone other than myself, but I'd want to see any Canadian team do well in the Champions League.

[Massive Attack]

quote:Originally posted by Miche

so do TFC and Whitecaps supporters now root for Montreal during the Champions League? Or are the majority gonna be bitter and secretly root against them?


Apparently CONCACAF is going to review Canada's inclusion in the Champions League after 2 seasons. Montreal performing well (making the Group Stage and playing decently) would help persuade CONCACAF to make our spot permanent.

So I hope Montreal the best.

[thedude99]

quote:Originally posted by Trident

It's only fitting Montreal is the representative for Canada.

And Of course the team from Montreal wins it over the overly British team.

Awesome.


How many Canadians played for Montreal last night?

[Massive Attack]

Montreal used 7 Canadians yesterday. 5 starters and 2 subs.

[argh1]

OOPS, started a Congrats Impact thread. Deleted it because some may have recorded THE game to watch later.
But congrats, we have a our Canadian Champions won on the field.
I'm sure Montreal Impact will do Canada proud in the CL:D
cbc.ca post game (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/player/?maven_playerId=sportsportalplayer&maven_referralPlaylistId=a685f99f7262aa92e01c6885f 87eba8b2827a704&maven_referralObject=800996585)

[JamboAl]

quote:Originally posted by Miche

so do TFC and Whitecaps supporters now root for Montreal during the Champions League? Or are the majority gonna be bitter and secretly root against them?


I'll stifle my anger towards my own team and support the Impact this season. I don't have as much animosity towards Montreal as some other TFC supporters because I went to university there and was an Expos fan (also helps living in Ottawa). I may even go to one of the CL matches at Saputo...wearing a TFC scarf. Just kidding folks!

[JamboAl]

quote:Originally posted by Miche

so do TFC and Whitecaps supporters now root for Montreal during the Champions League? Or are the majority gonna be bitter and secretly root against them?


I'll stifle my anger towards my own team and support the Impact this season. I don't have as much animosity towards Montreal as some other TFC supporters because I went to university there and was an Expos fan (also helps living in Ottawa). I may even go to one of the CL matches at Saputo...wearing a TFC scarf. Just kidding folks!

[Gian-Luca]

Apparently Limniatis has complained to the CSA about the officiating last night:

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Soccer/TorontoFC/2008/07/23/6239851-sun.html

[tmcmurph]

quote:Originally posted by Miche

so do TFC and Whitecaps supporters now root for Montreal during the Champions League? Or are the majority gonna be bitter and secretly root against them?


As a Caps fan I will cheer for Montreal. It would always be nice to have your team in it but failing that the Canadian team that makes it there is the one I'll cheer for.

[Alberto7]

Can someone from Toronto please explain this lack of sportsmanship?
http://impactmontreal.com/PepePhoto/Images/Photo19-5503.jpg

[loyola]

quote:Originally posted by Gian-Luca

Apparently Limniatis has complained to the CSA about the officiating last night:

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Soccer/TorontoFC/2008/07/23/6239851-sun.html


it seems he complained before the game about the ref choice.

[thedude99]

quote:Originally posted by Alberto7

Can someone from Toronto please explain this lack of sportsmanship?


Care to explain the same for the Montreal players? Celebrating a goal in front of the oppositions supporters section is generally considered poor class.

[Massive Attack]

quote:Originally posted by Alberto7

Can someone from Toronto please explain this lack of sportsmanship?


Lack of sportsmanship from who? Roberto Brown maybe? Isn't it poor form to celebrate a goal in front of opposing supporters?

What were you expecting?

[carolangers]

quote:Originally posted by thedude99


quote:Originally posted by Alberto7

Can someone from Toronto please explain this lack of sportsmanship?


Care to explain the same for the Montreal players? Celebrating a goal in front of the oppositions supporters section is generally considered poor class.

At least they didn't rip any bannners,like those idiots in Rochester [^]

[Alberto7]

I got this picture from the Impact website. I didn't see the game so I don't know if Brown specifically went there to celebrate. I agree with you, it is in poor taste to celebrate in front of the opposing supporters but I find it crass and classless to give the finger to players for scoring a goal. If a player fakes an injury or dives, I could tolerate it(just)but not for scoring a goal.

This is how I feel about soccer in general. I am not picking on Toronto fans who I admire for supporting their team so passionately. I just think this crosses the line.

[JamboAl]

I don't see anything wrong with the picture. This is a grown man's game, a passionate game; it's not hockey or baseball. I'm sure if a TFC player scored at the Ultras end at Saputo and celebrated in front of them, the same thing would happen. In fact, I would be disappointed if the response from the Impact supporters weren't the same as the good folks at the south end of BMO.

[finchster]

Its good to see the team with Canadians winning something because I am reminded of one Mo Johnston saying something to the effect "you can either have a team of Canadians or a winning team but you can't have both" I hope Montreal proves him wrong again and again in the Champions league

[speedmonk42]

Add to that, it was not a goal celebration as it was a straight out 'fck you' to the fans.

You could see how much those guys had to prove against and MLS team that passed them over.

Van and Montreal played well, and most people on the V's board figured TO would win it, but it would not be easy. It wasn't easy and they lost and deserved to.

[CanadaTFC]

MTL isn't (proabably) going far in the Champions League though. They are going to beat Real Esteli. But once they're in the group, I doubt they will get out of there. New England (is gong to beat JPFC) is a very strong team and Atlante is pretty decent. Olimpia is also coming straight out from wining the Clausura.

[CanadaTFC]

BTW anyone notices the hottie in the Roberto Brown pic? Next to the dude in all black.

[youllneverwalkalone]

Even though we missed the presentation, seeing the Voyageurs Cup really feels like the culmination of the support on this board: ok, it was only a 4 match season, but we finally got to see the Canadian League that many of made our first posts about!

I would love to see Montreal take on the CSL champs in a Community Shield type match.

As for TFC, Ali Gerba is out there. He can score. And Yallop ain't going to sign him from the looks of it. Serioux would also be available at the right price I would imagine.

At this point, IMHO, it's fine to spend a little more via trade/transfer on Canucks because the reality of this club right now is that kids like Nana should be given a chance. There's no way he can eff things up worse than Velez. Every consitentently successful club who don't dwell in perpetual termoil a la Real, (Arsenal, Man U, Barca) build through the academy and by acquiring good young players. These players -ideally from your community- create a base with pride in the fortunes of the club. I think that's what really set the Impact apart tonight: Braz, Pez, Rocco -all locals with pride in their club. Do Marshall and Guevera give a toss about TFC or Toronto? I doubt it. It looks to me like it's just a paycheque.

[CanadaTFC]

Serious was actually with the club for like an hour after Mo traded him. I think they didn't get a long too well BTW, I cannot believe we haven't signed Gerba yet!

[BearcatSA]

quote:Originally posted by Gian-Luca

It's not all down to Mo though, Carver has to take much blame for the tactics he adopted. Trying a 16 year old as a target striker and having a game plan of repeatedly getting the ball wide, crossing it in & hoping that the 16 year old will out jump two taller & much more experienced defenders was utter insanity & it cost TFC dearly.

Totally bankrupt of attacking ideas! As well, the one guy from a central location who could have made something happen from a more advanced position with his 1 v 1 skills, Guevara, ends up spending too much of the second half playing along side Robinson in the holding role, with Edu being pushed more forward instead.

But as a neutral, I certainly give the Impact massive props in their performance over the course of the tournament: great result! Keep it going in Nicaragua, boys!

[Whither Canada]

quote:Originally posted by Alberto7

Can someone from Toronto please explain this lack of sportsmanship?

Oh dear, someone's feelings are hurt. :(

[Johnnie Monster]

How about the guy w/ Raybans behind Mr. White T-shirt?

Kim Jong Il?

Seriously though, if you think this is poor sportsmanship, you should have been at Swangard the year Seattle knocked Vancouver out of the playoffs. Several Sounders PLAYERS celebrated their win by marching over to the Southside to give US the finger.

[Ed]

Well done Adam Braz! Well done Nevio Pizzolitto. Well done Simon Gatti. Well done Rocco Placentino. Well done Patrick Leduc (or "le duck" as NR puts it). Well done Sity-Taty Matondo (quick feet!). Well done Antonio Ribeiro. Which team had more passion?

http://www.montrealimpact.com/PepePhoto/Images/Photo16-6049.jpg

Brennan and Robert can hold their heads high today, nobody else. The 'all world' (according to our national broadcasters) Edu and Wynne looked pretty f*ing ordinary, as they have all season. The Puerto Rican looked, well, ... Puerto Rican. I hope Marshall centres the Jamaican D for years to come. He is crap. Guevara had bad luck. The man who earns $350,000 a season stole another pay cheque last night. But of course we will see another Carver tirade about officiating and carry on.

[Jeffery S.]

quote:Originally posted by thedude99


quote:Originally posted by Alberto7

Can someone from Toronto please explain this lack of sportsmanship?


Care to explain the same for the Montreal players? Celebrating a goal in front of the oppositions supporters section is generally considered poor class.


He scored on a cross from that corner, and went to celebrate with the corner kick taker. What is he supposed to do, leave the stadium to celebrate. He did not taunt the fans in any case.

That said, most are laughing in the pic, so it is not like they are upset or anything. It is fans intimidating opposing players, that is acceptable. Or isn't it?

Sometimes you get the sense that these little controversies are started by people who never go to games.

[BearcatSA]

Yeah, I agree about Robert: I thought he had one of his better efforts.

On first viewing of the match I didn't think Braz was any great shakes out there: he got caught ball watching and let Brennan drift behind him and cross for the first goal.

[speedmonk42]

quote:Originally posted by Whither Canada


quote:Originally posted by Alberto7

Can someone from Toronto please explain this lack of sportsmanship?

Oh dear, someone's feelings are hurt. :(


Well the player came over and told the fans to fck off.

What do you expect?

[Ed]

^ Sweet. Right in the face of the prats throwing tissue at them. Perfect!

[Montreal_FC_fan]

THIS IS OUR CUP Clap Clap Clap Clap!
THIS IS OUR CUP Clap Clap Clap Clap!

What a trip, what a game, what a way to win the Vs cup once again.
Anyways, not only this is a Montreal Impact win, this is also a USL win! Both USL teams played well in this tournament Vs TFC and this shows that size and money dont matter when you got passion and heart! Cheers to the Whitecaps!
We couldn't leave BMO field without singing a chant to acknowledge what the Whitecaps did.
Edddddddyyyyyyyyyyy Sebrannnnnngooooooooo OUUHH!! AAAAAH! I WANNA KNOWWWW HOW YOU SCORED THAT GOAL!?!
:D

PS. It was fun looking at the TFC fans reactions when we cracked a bunch of blue and white smoke bombs while chanting "this is our house" at the 90' min

[Montreal_FC_fan]

quote:Originally posted by speedmonk42


quote:Originally posted by Whither Canada


quote:Originally posted by Alberto7

Can someone from Toronto please explain this lack of sportsmanship?

Oh dear, someone's feelings are hurt. :(


Well the player came over and told the fans to fck off.

What do you expect?



Yeah the fans where spitting on the Impact players when they where taking a corner. What do you expect the players to do after scoring a goal on a corner in there end?

[Montreal_FC_fan]

Limniatis, according to a report out of Montreal, called the Canadian Soccer Association prior to last night's game to complain about the choice of Toronto's Silviu Petrescu as referee for the match.

And the Montreal coach might have had a point. TFC was awarded five free kicks from just outside the box to the Impact's one.


No wonder the ref was so one sided... [:o)]

[jpg75]

Congrats to Montreal, good luck in the CCL.

[TFC07]

quote:Originally posted by Massive Attack


quote:Originally posted by Miche

so do TFC and Whitecaps supporters now root for Montreal during the Champions League? Or are the majority gonna be bitter and secretly root against them?


Apparently CONCACAF is going to review Canada's inclusion in the Champions League after 2 seasons. Montreal performing well (making the Group Stage and playing decently) would help persuade CONCACAF to make our spot permanent.

So I hope Montreal the best.


I don't know, it is kind of hard to root for a non-toronto team. It doesn't feel right.

[Alberto7]

quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S.


quote:Originally posted by thedude99


quote:Originally posted by Alberto7

Can someone from Toronto please explain this lack of sportsmanship?


Care to explain the same for the Montreal players? Celebrating a goal in front of the oppositions supporters section is generally considered poor class.


He scored on a cross from that corner, and went to celebrate with the corner kick taker. What is he supposed to do, leave the stadium to celebrate. He did not taunt the fans in any case.

That said, most are laughing in the pic, so it is not like they are upset or anything. It is fans intimidating opposing players, that is acceptable. Or isn't it?

Sometimes you get the sense that these little controversies are started by people who never go to games.


Ok, my final word on the matter.

1) My feelings aren't hurt. How could they be. My team won :)

2) Fans can cheer or boo players all they want. In [u]my</u> opinion giving the finger is crass.

3) I admire Toronto FC fans beacuse they are so passionate about their team. Yes most of them are laughing and having a good time which is why we attend soccer games in the first place.

4) Jeffrey, I've attended a lot of soccer games and have cheered and booed just as loud as anyone else. I'm also not trying to start a "controversy" I'm expressing an opinion and having a discussion with my fellow Voyageurs which I believe is the point of this Forum.

[speedmonk42]

quote:Originally posted by Montreal_FC_fan


quote:Originally posted by speedmonk42


quote:Originally posted by Whither Canada


quote:Originally posted by Alberto7

Can someone from Toronto please explain this lack of sportsmanship?

Oh dear, someone's feelings are hurt. :(


Well the player came over and told the fans to fck off.

What do you expect?



Yeah the fans where spitting on the Impact players when they where taking a corner. What do you expect the players to do after scoring a goal on a corner in there end?


No, I highly doubt that people were spitting on them.

Security would end that, and so would most fans in the crowd.

That is myth making. If you have evidence of it then share it, cause no one in the south end wants that kind of crap happening.

[speedmonk42]

Alberto.
2) Fans can cheer or boo players all they want. In my opinion giving the finger is crass.
---------

Agree, but tell your Montreal buddies the same thing.

If we look how long will it take to find a picture of a Montreal fan giving the finger? I saw it several times just walking to the stadium, but they wouldn't do it during a game? Come on.

These are all silly things to be arguing / talking about.

[Mpenza]

Gotta congratulate the U-Sector on their "p'tit frère mongol" banner. That was a really good one. We all loved it. LOL. :)

[loyola]

quote:Originally posted by Mpenza

Gotta congratulate the U-Sector on their "p'tit frère mongol" banner. That was a really good one. We all loved it. LOL. :)


Sincerely, I think that was an unaCceptable. Everything related to gays, mental illness, ethnicity should be left home. There's enough stuff to feed the trash-talk without needing to resort to that kind of stuff. I've said it before, I have nothing against some trash talk but you have to know when you're crossing the line.