View Full Version : Red Patch Boys TFC supporter club
canadian_bhoy
10-02-2006, 02:11 PM
hey guys, not trying to spam your board or hijack members, but I just wanted people to check out the red patch boys website. we finally got it up and running and while its still a little short on content, we're pretty proud of a good start.
We're pretty excited to hear that there are 5 supporters groups for the club and we look forward to meeting up with everyone and supporting toronto fc.
if you want more information about us. check our messageboard www.toronto-fc.com or go to the site www.redpatchboys.ca
are there other groups on this board? if so, lets hear about your groups for next season!
john tv
10-02-2006, 02:48 PM
Hey Canadian boy good job I am very impressed with your site.Excuse my ignorance but were did that redpatchboys name came from, I suppose it's the TFC logo.
john tv
10-02-2006, 03:01 PM
Sorry just read the story which in itself is marvelous,certainly for a Dutchman having been liberated by the Canadians,very good stuff and very appropiate.Who came up with that name?
sKriSh
10-02-2006, 03:17 PM
Are you guys going to join up with U Sector and the other groups or are you going to remain a seperate?
quote:Originally posted by canadian_bhoy
are there other groups on this board? if so, lets hear about your groups for next season!
U-Sector is here :P
canadian_bhoy
10-02-2006, 03:46 PM
quote:Originally posted by john tv
Sorry just read the story which in itself is marvelous,certainly for a Dutchman having been liberated by the Canadians,very good stuff and very appropiate.Who came up with that name?
one of the members came up with the name as a homage to canadian troops, it was originally red patch devils, but we changed it slightly so that it didn't look like we were ripping off united.
canadian_bhoy
10-02-2006, 03:49 PM
quote:Originally posted by sKriSh
Are you guys going to join up with U Sector and the other groups or are you going to remain a seperate?
the members are voting right now as to where we are going to sit. we originally chose 112 not to be 'separate' but because we had issues with being behind the goal and b/c of the accessability seating. It was never an us vs them situation...even though it may have appeared that way on the MB's. At the moment we are considering 112 and 113 and the group will decide this week.
At our meeting there was discussion with the MLSE reps about getting the groups organized and communicating. that is something we hope to do in the coming days and weeks.
Daniel
10-02-2006, 08:24 PM
5 supporters groups?
Who are the other 3?
BringBackTheBlizzard
10-02-2006, 08:27 PM
quote:Originally posted by Daniel
5 supporters groups?
Who are the other 3?
Toronto's Liverpool Supporters Association, Fort York and the Ceilidh House Hoolies. Suspect it won't stop there. Barra Brava in DC grew out of the Bolivian community's support for Marco Etcheverry. A big name import could have a similar effect in Toronto IMO.
SeanKeay
10-03-2006, 10:18 AM
Yeah like signing a brazillian... uggggg
canadian_bhoy
10-17-2006, 03:41 PM
sorry to harp on the RPB site on your board guys...tell me if its an issue. we've got some new stuff up on the articles page and it looks like teh site is really starting to come along...check the multimedia part too!
cheers guys
Having had 3 uncles and one of my grandfathers go through the Italian campaign after landing in Sicily and having spent time on 2 difft Cdn bases with a street named Ortona, I think that's a great name for a supporters' group. Beats the poop out of the Euro-inspired Ultras, which to me is just another laundry detergent.
Well it's a good thing that none of the Toronto supporters' groups go by the name 'Ultras', then, eh?
I seem to recall the name being used by a supporters group in Toronto. You been sniffin' glue again Rudi?
quote:Originally posted by Ed
I seem to recall the name being used by a supporters group in Toronto. You been sniffin' glue again Rudi?
Only the high-grade stuff popular in Alberta.
http://www.embargo.ca/ultras/usectorfaq.shtml
quote:Q: How did the U-Sector get its name?
A: The U-Sector was originally known as the Toronto Ultras, a group that would congregate in Varsity Stadium's section U (nicknamed the "U Sector"). To distinguish itself from the many other Ultras groups worldwide, the Toronto Ultras adopted U-Sector as the group's name following the 2004 season.
River City
10-17-2006, 05:54 PM
quote:Originally posted by Daniel
5 supporters groups?
Who are the other 3?
The People's Front of Judea, The Judean People's Front and of course the Popular Front....
Just kidding, I'm just jealous there's no pro soccer in Alberta....
BringBackTheBlizzard
10-20-2006, 05:30 PM
quote:Originally posted by River City
The People's Front of Judea, The Judean People's Front and of course the Popular Front....
It's nothing out of the ordinary in MLS terms to have multiple supporters groups FWIW. In DC there are three well known groups La Barra Brava, the Screaming Eagles and La Norte:-
http://www.barra-brava.com/
http://screaming-eagles.com/
http://www.lanorte.com/Home.html
all catering to different groups in much the same way different people prefer the atmosphere at different bars and restaurants. TFC have made the entire 3000 seat south end a supporters section so there is plenty of space available for different groups to do their thing and to hopefully create the most authentic big time soccer game day experience in North America.
PS What follows is a one-off shameless plug. :) I've just started doing what should be a reasonably regular weekly column for the RPB website. First article is entitled "Toronto FC folding soon? Not a chance."
http://www.redpatchboys.ca/
Daniel
10-20-2006, 05:40 PM
quote:Originally posted by BringBackTheBlizzard
quote:Originally posted by River City
The People's Front of Judea, The Judean People's Front and of course the Popular Front....
It's nothing out of the ordinary in MLS terms to have multiple supporters groups FWIW. In DC there are three well known groups La Barra Brava, the Screaming Eagles and La Norte:-
http://www.barra-brava.com/
http://screaming-eagles.com/
http://www.lanorte.com/Home.html
all catering to different groups in much the same way different people prefer the atmosphere at different bars and restaurants. TFC have made the entire 3000 seat south end a supporters section so there is plenty of space available for different groups to do their thing and to hopefully create the most authentic big time soccer game day experience in North America.
PS What follows is a one-off shameless plug. :) I've just started doing what should be a reasonably regular weekly column for the RPB website. First article is entitled "Toronto FC folding soon? Not a chance."
http://www.redpatchboys.ca/
We're not idiots. My comment was because 2 have created an internet presence and the other 3 are, what? 5 people each? We'll see after a season how many remain.
quote:Originally posted by Daniel
We're not idiots. My comment was because 2 have created an internet presence and the other 3 are, what? 5 people each? We'll see after a season how many remain.
Well, the Toronto LFC Supporters Club is huge (in the thousands), but it remains to be seen how seriously they actually intend to support Toronto FC.
As for the "other" two groups, they can hardly be considered 'groups' at this point, not without a web presence.
Toronto FC has actually listed us (U-Sector) and RPB on the official website as TFC supporters groups. No sign of the Liverpool Supporters Club (even though they have a web presence), which isn't entirely surprising given the Euro-snob nature of such a group.
River City
10-20-2006, 10:25 PM
quote:Originally posted by Daniel
quote:Originally posted by River City
The People's Front of Judea, The Judean People's Front and of course the Popular Front....
We're not idiots. My comment was because 2 have created an internet presence and the other 3 are, what? 5 people each? We'll see after a season how many remain.
No harm intended. I just think it's better to have one large, organized group rather than a lot of small ones all trying to accomplish the same thing....again, it could be we have nothing of the sort in Alberta.
Daniel
10-21-2006, 01:42 AM
quote:Originally posted by Rudi
quote:Originally posted by Daniel
We're not idiots. My comment was because 2 have created an internet presence and the other 3 are, what? 5 people each? We'll see after a season how many remain.
Well, the Toronto LFC Supporters Club is huge (in the thousands), but it remains to be seen how seriously they actually intend to support Toronto FC.
As for the "other" two groups, they can hardly be considered 'groups' at this point, not without a web presence.
Toronto FC has actually listed us (U-Sector) and RPB on the official website as TFC supporters groups. No sign of the Liverpool Supporters Club (even though they have a web presence), which isn't entirely surprising given the Euro-snob nature of such a group.
Until it becomes primarily a TFC supporters' club, I'm not paying attention.
BringBackTheBlizzard
10-21-2006, 03:16 PM
quote:Originally posted by River City
No harm intended. I just think it's better to have one large, organized group rather than a lot of small ones all trying to accomplish the same thing....again, it could be we have nothing of the sort in Alberta.
I disagree. Competition between groups based on a spirit of friendly rivalry and oneupmanship will help to keep everybody on their toes and striving to be the best. The surface has only been scratched on the potential so far given that most soccer fans in Southern Ontario never read messageboards like this.
Jeffery S.
10-23-2006, 04:34 AM
I just want to say that it is great that there are many supporter's clubs, and I disagree with those that say there should be unity or even a coordinated section. I think some people are just interested in standing in a bigger crowd and making more noise all together, that mass experience, rather than working in a supporter group environment.
I have the example of my team here in Barcelona (Barça) which has something like 1300 supporter groups worldwide. Most try to travel to a game at least once a year, the local ones come in every match and often (but not always, as there are problems in coordinated seating arrangmements) sit together. Some hang banners but are quiet. Others make a bit of noise, so you have different points of activity in the stadium, some rowdier, some playing instruments, others just providing colour.
I think this is a more natural arrangment, and i would try to resist any effort by the club to force coordination of efforts. That is different, for example, from travelling together or even sitting together for away games, which does indeed seem reasonable.
RealGooner
10-23-2006, 10:56 AM
quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S.
I just want to say that it is great that there are many supporter's clubs, and I disagree with those that say there should be unity or even a coordinated section. I think some people are just interested in standing in a bigger crowd and making more noise all together, that mass experience, rather than working in a supporter group environment.
I have the example of my team here in Barcelona (Barça) which has something like 1300 supporter groups worldwide. Most try to travel to a game at least once a year, the local ones come in every match and often (but not always, as there are problems in coordinated seating arrangmements) sit together. Some hang banners but are quiet. Others make a bit of noise, so you have different points of activity in the stadium, some rowdier, some playing instruments, others just providing colour.
I think this is a more natural arrangment, and i would try to resist any effort by the club to force coordination of efforts. That is different, for example, from travelling together or even sitting together for away games, which does indeed seem reasonable.
The Nou Camp seems quiet these days,not much singing etc. Have the ultras been banned or something?
River City
10-23-2006, 01:55 PM
I agree the rivalry between groups is good in order to get them to continually outdo each other, but seems to me some cooperation would be nice in order to have maximum impact. Better to have 100 guys singing in unison rather than 10.
And a unified umbrella group could still retain its individual group identities, but when dealing with the team, media, whatever, would make more of an impression.
Again, just my two bits.
RealGooner
10-23-2006, 03:14 PM
quote:Originally posted by River City
I agree the rivalry between groups is good in order to get them to continually outdo each other, but seems to me some cooperation would be nice in order to have maximum impact. Better to have 100 guys singing in unison rather than 10.
And a unified umbrella group could still retain its individual group identities, but when dealing with the team, media, whatever, would make more of an impression.
Again, just my two bits.
I think the twr TFC groups that are online now intend to cooperate with respect to supporting the team, ie planning Tifo together, bus trips. They will be sitting separately from eachother in the stadium thats all.
Jeffery S.
10-23-2006, 04:53 PM
quote:Originally posted by RealGooner
quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S.
I just want to say that it is great that there are many supporter's clubs, and I disagree with those that say there should be unity or even a coordinated section. I think some people are just interested in standing in a bigger crowd and making more noise all together, that mass experience, rather than working in a supporter group environment.
I have the example of my team here in Barcelona (Barça) which has something like 1300 supporter groups worldwide. Most try to travel to a game at least once a year, the local ones come in every match and often (but not always, as there are problems in coordinated seating arrangmements) sit together. Some hang banners but are quiet. Others make a bit of noise, so you have different points of activity in the stadium, some rowdier, some playing instruments, others just providing colour.
I think this is a more natural arrangment, and i would try to resist any effort by the club to force coordination of efforts. That is different, for example, from travelling together or even sitting together for away games, which does indeed seem reasonable.
The Nou Camp seems quiet these days,not much singing etc. Have the ultras been banned or something?
Nou Camp is noisier than ever, in the entire history of my time going I have never heard as much. The crowd is also way younger, a generational shift. Perhaps you just don't hear it on the tv feed. If you watch the Chelsea match, as long as there is not a torrential downpour dampening things, you'll hear it.
The Boixos Nois have been pushed out of the "Gol Nord", but since there were death threats against the president's family and they were found to be doing little tasks for drug dealers (such as beating up people), it is probably good to have them out. They were neo-fascist, some were openly Nazi. They harrassed the more natural (moderate Catalan nationalist) supporter groups, who are back. And their singing was insistent, but monotonous and robotic (must say I was a bit disappointed by how much singing at Anfield Rd, of all placed, was also a bit robotic and planned, without being really heartfelt at times, I liked it but found that in the end fans can end up imitating themselves). So good riddance to the Boixos Nois.
Now the other groups, like Almogavers behind the south goal, have picked up, and as I say there are quite a few points of energy and noise from all over the stadium.
RealGooner
10-25-2006, 12:31 PM
Sure, maybe it was the TV feed.
Jeffery S.
10-25-2006, 06:00 PM
quote:Originally posted by RealGooner
Sure, maybe it was the TV feed.
Maybe it was the gooner in ya. If you can't win at football, maybe you can win at singing. So go join a choir. With Thierry as the choir master.
RealGooner
10-27-2006, 02:02 PM
quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S.
quote:Originally posted by RealGooner
Sure, maybe it was the TV feed.
Maybe it was the gooner in ya. If you can't win at football, maybe you can win at singing. So go join a choir. With Thierry as the choir master.
I'd love to see Mr Wenger as a conductor/maestreo with wand in hand and tuxedo lol
speedmonk42
10-27-2006, 06:06 PM
I think that there being more than one group is a good thing.
They can challenge one another, coordinate, do whatever the hell they want.
Makes it less 'controlled' or something, more options for people with different personalities and tastes, more room for different ideas.
speedmonk42
10-27-2006, 06:06 PM
I think that there being more than one group is a good thing.
They can challenge one another, coordinate, do whatever the hell they want.
Makes it less 'controlled' or something, more options for people with different personalities and tastes, more room for different ideas.
john tv
10-28-2006, 12:33 PM
I just wonder what impact these supporters groups will have on the local media. I really don't know if supporters groups like we are discussing are present in other sports.These two questions are very interesting and also will expose the power we should have. Both with the organization and the media as well.I believe we are talking about a new phenomena in sports if this develops the way it should and even must.I know that Paul at the first meeting made reference to the Raptors having a supporters group and if i recall they were receiving some assistance from the Raptors as well being I guess ticket discounts and other items as well.
I guess we can also assume that the supporters clubs are also as much involved in supporting our Canadian team,meaning that the same apparatus will come into swing. I suppose at that time we will all become one supporters group.
BringBackTheBlizzard
10-28-2006, 01:29 PM
Think priority number one is trying to be visible in the local soccer media. RPB got a shout out on Italian Soccer Fanatics on TLN last weekend:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af0Ex4ETWUo
and a few weeks back U-sector got a mention on the FAN 590's Soccer Show.
canadian_bhoy
11-01-2006, 08:13 AM
New Front page added to the RPB site for the month of November to honour the troops. please check it out and let us know what you think
www.redpatchboys.ca
River City
11-03-2006, 09:58 AM
Somewhat related...I thought this was a very classy move by the Celtic supporters.
http://www.uefa.com/uefa/Keytopics/kind=8/newsId=474977.html
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